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[farmgirlie1031]

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But that won't help with the manatory horse id. People don't eat horses anyways. I would not mind id for my chickens but they want to force you to id every animal on the property livestock or not.

 

[DrakeMaiden]

You're right. I wasn't really being serious, so forgive me.

I guess my real point is that when I buy food I take responsibility to make sure it is the best quality I can source, and that I prepare it safely. I don't need the government to step in and tell me that "its ok, we will ensure that it is safe" only to find out it isn't.

The regulation of horses was sort of a "last straw" for me . . . when will they decide cats and dogs are next? I think the gov is seriously overstepping our boundaries.

 

[farmgirlie1031]

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You are forgiven I too think the gov't is overstepping boundaries.

 

[d.k]

* greyfields, as an eyewitness to the UK's experience, are you also familiar with Mary Critchley's blogspot chronicling the events? (www.warmwell.com) I found it while websearching "animal kill zones" and it is an excellent and horrifying chronicle of the UK's experience. Some archive dates of interest: Tues, Nov 6, 2OO7; Thurs, Nov 8, 2OO7; Sun, Feb 10, 2OO8 and Mon, Feb 25, 2OO8-- just for starters. I plan to print out the entirety to read a.s.a.p..

 

[greyfields]

I will just say that the smell cannot be described in words.

I wanted to visit the airbase my grandfather flew out from, but it was one of the cull, burn and bury sites. AFAIK, you still can't go onto it as a biohazard. :\\

 

[LittleChickenRacingTeam]

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Actually we eat horse a couple times a month, both at restaurants & BBQ'd at home. My local butcher specifically orders young foals that we use for shish kebabs. At $25 per pound, this is considered a delicasy. It has become a very popular industry in Canada since many US states have eliminated horse slaughterhouses.

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Horse Meat

Horses have been considered companion animals for thousands of years, which is why people who own, employ or stable them have complex, and sometimes deeply emotional relationships with them. And that's also why for most North Americans, the thought of eating horse meat makes them squeamish, if not down right angry.

But you may be unaware that horse meat is still a common menu item, a delicacy even, and slaughtering plants across the U.S. and Canada kill close to two hundred thousand horses a year. Most of the meat goes to Europe and Japan, but some of it is sold across Canada, in restaurants and butcher shops.

But now in the U.S., politicians and animal welfare groups want to put an end to the multi-million dollar horse meat industry. One of the leading advocate groups is the National Horse Protection Coalition and its spokesperson is actor Bo Derek.

Well, similar concerns have led the US Congress to enact a one-year ban on the horse slaughter. And one of the people who helped draft that legislation is Chris Heyde. He's a policy analyst with the Society for Animal Protective Legislation and has worked with Senators and Congressmen pushing for the ban. We reached Chris Heyde in our Washington studio.


Horse Meat – Restaurant

Each week, horse meat is served up on 400-miilion dinner plate across Europe and Japan. And it's not cheap. As we mentioned it's often available in French restaurants, and it sells for approximately $25 dollars Canadian a pound. Well, we sent one of our producers, Lara O'Brien, and her friend Adrienne Loncke to a popular Toronto bistro called La Palette, to taste something they've never tasted before in the name of good journalism.


According to the Alberta Express, a farming newsletter, Canada slaughters an average of about 62,000 horses a year. 25-thousand of them come from the U.S. The horses hauled to the plants include race, and ranch horses, wild, and family horses. And the slaughterhouses are located across the country, in Quebec, Ontario and Alberta.

 

[Frozen Feathers]

I 'm sure you're getting ripped off, or you're going to France to have that meal.

PMU foals are a dime a dozen in Canada. You could probably buy a whole foal for less then $25 off a PMU farm or auction.

Before they ended horse slaughter her in the US, my Uncle used to buy it all the time, because he's cheap. Says it taste like the barnyard, but he's just that cheap.

 

[Rusty Hills Farm]

It has become a very popular industry in Canada since many US states have eliminated horse slaughterhouses.

But that's not what we are debating here since NAIS does not concern Canada. You ARE your own country after all, and not one of our states. To my knowledge there are no longer any equine slaughterhouses operating in the US, which is where NAIS *is* being enforced. That means horse meat poses no possible threat to the US food supply.

Horses do not offer any threat to the US population. There is no need to track them, let alone give NAIS inspectors blanket authority to kill them like they were cows or pigs.


H.​

 

[d.k]

* Hawke, Canada also has the same concerns as they have their own version of NAIS, as do all the EU nations, Austrailia, and frankly most of the rest as well. The only real difference is how far along the programs have progressed in each place. Smallholders are smallholders the world over. There are a lot of animals in the U.S. that we don't eat. Dogs, cats, monkeys, parrots and zoo animals, for example. My understanding is that all these are included in NAIS as well, and no animal or poultry seen as livestock escapes the list, not even rabbits.

 

[ilovemychickies]

I was wondering, what is NAIS? I've seen lots of people are against it but I'm not sure what it is and what NAIS does. I was just wondering.

Thanks!