Not an Emergency...Marek's in the Flock

Discussion in 'Emergencies / Diseases / Injuries and Cures' started by Haunted55, Feb 3, 2013.

  1. Haunted55

    Haunted55 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    No. Nothing will cure Marek's, unfortunately. You can give antibiotics for support as well as vitamins that help the immune and nerve systems in the body, but that's about it I'm afraid. Another thing I personally use is FloraGen 3. It is a human probiotic and it has billions of the live cultures of 3 different probiotics in one capsule. Immunity starts in the guts. Human, animal, doesn't matter. My thoughts are this, no it isn't going to get rid of Marek's, way too late for that...but what it can do is keep things working right so a secondary infection or disease doesn't step in and finish off the poor bird. I've had many a poor bird die from the secondary things.
     
  2. Haunted55

    Haunted55 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Lysol, find your favorite fragrance and spray their shoes. Also, lime the ground where they have to walk.
     
  3. Haunted55

    Haunted55 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    My experience as well. I will say though, that even vaccinated, some of these birds are showing poor feathering on their backs and I got my order on the 5th or 6th of May. Most are coming along fine but a few...not quite as well. Also they seem a bit behind on the laying part as well. I have had one pullet egg just the other day. Time will tell.

    I ordered Silkies from McMurray this year and had them vaccinated as well. McMurray now does them and mine are doing awesome! Another thing to think about...you could order your 'Ameraucanas' from McMurray. I ordered some from them as I already have the full blooded ones so wanted to try something with the breeding end of things. A couple of them are EEs, no question, a couple look just like my true Ameraucanas and a couple look like and act like the Auraucanas [sp?]. The last two are nuts! As in flighty and a real pain in the butt. One of them decided to fly up 7' and start stripping the insulation off of the walls. Still, I know when she does start laying I will be getting the blue eggs I love so much. Just a thought...You can breed the EEs to go back to the Ameraucana traits they carry inside them. More than that though, if you want a flock that has natural immunities, add in some Dark Cornish and start hatching your own. My DCs survived the Marek's outbreak here last year. I lost one, but not to Marek's. All of the others were alive until i processed the extra roos a couple of weeks ago. there is something in their make up that keeps them safe.
     
  4. hogster160

    hogster160 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I also noticed that my chicken didn't do as well on the normal vit B complex. It wasn't until I got the Super B Complex that I saw a difference in her. She still gets it, however, I have started cutting her back. I add it every other day now, same dose tho. She is the same at this point. So I may go for a little bit yet and cut her back to 3/4 of a pill every other day and see if there is any change.
     
  5. Haunted55

    Haunted55 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Hogster, sometimes we have to 'play' a bit to see what works. I have had to give the Super B in the water as well as syringe some down their throats. It's a pain but sometimes it works and turns around for them. Sometimes it's an ongoing thing. I don't have all the answers by a long shot, wish I did! Trust me, I'd share. I hate this disease in ways most could never imagine. Just like it's human cancer counterpart, it steals the best from us and takes away dreams and time. Still, I truly believe if we keep on, keeping on, we will get some of it back. Look at me...losing the roo from Control Group #2. With talking with the person at Texas A&M, it doesn't matter if I put them with the first group. It will still work! That is the important part. The trick is going to be finding the 2nd groups eggs from the 1st's. When that is done I can move forward again. Maybe this isn't a set back at all. think about this for a moment. The first groups roo is proven as a survivor and in his abilities to father. The ones from the second group came from him and his girls. They have some of his survival, whatever you want to call them, encoded into their DNA and using him to breed more young will only strengthen those traits. Or should, let's be honest, things can go so very wrong quickly. but for argument's sake, let's assume all goes well...now you have a brood that is doubly strong? They have a double dose of his immunities and those of their surviving mothers. Keep in mind...not one of these birds has been vaccinated for anything. They are surviving on their own without any intervention, yet new birds, even the vaccinated last year died. I am a believer in the breeding. I am seeing it here and I 'know' that the Dark Cornish make up has something to do with it. I urge you to try and introduce that breed into your flock. They are half wild and when young can be a real pain to have, but they carry something inside them that is well worth any efforts needed to raise them.
     
  6. schnebbles

    schnebbles Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I am using 3/4t in a quart. They have been on it now for nearly 3 weeks with a few days break. I did 7 days, then 2-3 days off then am at almost 14 days now again. I still hear conjestion in their nose.

    I'm super down about this.

    I felt her foot this morning and while one foot grips like normal, the other foot is just flimsy as if it just isn't working at all. Her limp isn't as bad as Pennys, she gets around better, doesn't fall forward, but I may have just caught this one sooner.

    I forgot the b's in their water. I better mix new water for today.
     
  7. CeeJ

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    well I hope you have better luck with the blue eggs from McMurray than I did. I got 13 of their 'Americauna' hoping for a couple blue. Nope, all 13 lay green, though 2 are a bit darker- not olive. When I went back and retead their site info, it actually says they lay green. And when you search by egg color, blue is not a choice. Some older reviewers said they got a couple of blue layers. Go figure. I have enough EE's, so don't think I'll try any more.
     
  8. Haunted55

    Haunted55 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    I haven't gotten any from the new ones yet, as in their first eggs, but my girls last year gave me true blue, pink, ivory and almost a robin's egg blue color.

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    Really, it's not a myth. These eggs are from girls who are over 2 years old now and just coming out of molt so the color isn't as good as it gets. The others are from some of my other girls and obviously not blue or even Ameraucana. The darker brown are from an Australorp and the lighter are from my Dark Cornish girls.
     
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  9. salt and pepper

    salt and pepper Chillin' With My Peeps

    Ok.... Hmmmmm, Other than Baytril, which is the best that I posted??
     
  10. schnebbles

    schnebbles Chillin' With My Peeps

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    this came from Seminolewind's mareks page in her sig -

    "Transmission Marek’s is highly contagious and spreads by bird-to-bird contact, by contact with infected dust and dander, and by darkling beetles and mealworms that live in the chicken house, although the virus has no affect on the beetles or mealworms."

    does this mean I could have given my chickens mareks by feeding mealworms? I got a starter kit of worms/beetles online and raise my own now.
     

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