And I thought keeping chickens was going to be easy! Of course I still don't know what is wrong with Penny. First, I noticed my paint silkie has crossbeak, now this. I keep the silkies beak trimmed and she seems fine (did I mention, I'm new too? - I got all of my chickens late spring. I am going to keep her on the super b (1 per gallon?) and see how she does before I take her back to the vet. I got a cheapie version of the SuperB at walmart, the others were 6.50 and these looked comparable. I put 1 in a gallon of vitamin/electrolyte water. Can my other birds drink this too? Or should I mix up their plain vitamin/electrolyte water separate? Also, I think I had been feeding broiler or boiler, not sure which, crumbles by Kent. For a long while, just finished 50#. So, I am now thinking that was probably not the right food. I drove 1/2 hour to get the Kent. I just bought a bag of flock raiser (Purina) because it seemed more appropriate for my chickens ages, plus I have 2 cockerels. I''ll get into my food questions another time, probably next bag. Should I have oyster shells out? My girls might start laying in the fall, september or so. Penny is still the same. I left her on the couch with pillows last night and my husband said she was on the floor when he got up. I might try the cage again tonight, I don't want her causing more damage, although I'm pretty sure she probably isn't. She can flap her wings really well. That mareks sure is nasty, wish my birds had been vaccinated. I guess then I'd know for sure what this is, or isn't. Deb Hogster - I forgot to tell you I grew up in Elkhart. in OH now, but lived up there til I was 44 or so. Moved to Ft Wayne for a couple years (I Loved that town!), and ended up here in OH.