Nutrition especially for your Peas

[casportpony]

I grow kale, collard greens and swiss chard for mine, but they also get free choice alfalfa hay.

"Alfalfa has a high nutritional quality, containing vitamins A, D, E, K, U, C, B1, B2, B6, B12, Niacin, Pantothenic acid, Inositol, Biotin, and Folic acid. Alfalfa also contains the minerals Phosphorus, Calcium, Potassium, Sodium, Chlorine, Sulfur, Magnesium, Copper, Manganese, Iron, Cobalt, Boron, Molybdenum and trace elements such as Nickel, Lead, Strontium and Palladium."
Source: http://www.anderson-hay.com/alfalfa-hay/alfalfa-hay-for-horses/
Hay Variety Digestible Energy (Mcal/lb) Total Digestible Nutrients (%) Crude Protein (%) Calcium (%) Phosphorus (%)
Alfalfa .8 to 1.1 Mcal/lb 48 to 55% 15 to 20% .9 to 1.5% .2 to .35%
Timothy or Orchard Grass .7 to 1.0 Mcal/lb 42 to 50% 7 to 10% .3 to .5% .2 to .35%
Tall Fescue .7 to .9 Mcal/lb 40 to 48% 5 to 9% .3 to .5% .2 to .35%
Source:http://menezesbrosinc.com/Facts Alfalfa Hay.htm

-Kathy

 

[AugeredIn]

I don't know that there is a difference. We scramble sometimes. When we boil them we mash them up real fine so there is no way to separate yolk and white.

 

[zazouse]

I don't know that there is a difference. We scramble sometimes. When we boil them we mash them up real fine so there is no way to separate yolk and white.

See i did not think about you chopping them up, for some reason i pictured you feeding them whole

having a blond moment

ER grey/blond now

 

[zazouse]

I grow kale, collard greens and swiss chard for mine, but they also get free choice alfalfa hay.

"Alfalfa has a high nutritional quality, containing vitamins A, D, E, K, U, C, B1, B2, B6, B12, Niacin, Pantothenic acid, Inositol, Biotin, and Folic acid. Alfalfa also contains the minerals Phosphorus, Calcium, Potassium, Sodium, Chlorine, Sulfur, Magnesium, Copper, Manganese, Iron, Cobalt, Boron, Molybdenum and trace elements such as Nickel, Lead, Strontium and Palladium."
Source: http://www.anderson-hay.com/alfalfa-hay/alfalfa-hay-for-horses/
Hay Variety Digestible Energy (Mcal/lb) Total Digestible Nutrients (%) Crude Protein (%) Calcium (%) Phosphorus (%)
Alfalfa .8 to 1.1 Mcal/lb 48 to 55% 15 to 20% .9 to 1.5% .2 to .35%
Timothy or Orchard Grass .7 to 1.0 Mcal/lb 42 to 50% 7 to 10%

.3 to .5% .2 to .35%
Tall Fescue .7 to .9 Mcal/lb 40 to 48% 5 to 9% .3 to .5% .2 to .35%
Source:http://menezesbrosinc.com/Facts Alfalfa Hay.htm

-Kathy

Great info,

this would be a great way to get greens into your peas, you would have to wet them mabe mix them with something they like like eggs .. i am thinking that they need more greens than we might realize from looking at the gizzards insides..

HUM might have to get some alfalfa seeds and plant them a patch.. i just planted swiss chard,spinaige, brussle sprouts and cabbage in the wild flower patch for them

 

[frenchblackcopper]

There is about 4% protein ;level diffrence between alfalfa thats made from the leaves,vs leaves and stems combined. AugeredIN,,when I get home tonight I will put up a list of diffrent beans-legumes protein levels.I've been in a very steep learning curve on this and when omega3 and omega6 comes into the ration,thats another learning curve.More to come,,indeed

Zaz,alfalfa sprouts are HUGE in almost everything,I'll post those facts too,later this eve

 

[zazouse]

There is about 4% protein ;level diffrence between alfalfa thats made from the leaves,vs leaves and stems combined. AugeredIN,,when I get home tonight I will put up a list of diffrent beans-legumes protein levels.I've been in a very steep learning curve on this and when omega3 and omega6 comes into the ration,thats another learning curve.More to come,,indeed

Zaz,alfalfa sprouts are HUGE in almost everything,I'll post those facts too,later this eve

I ain't gonna sprouting them, i want to plant it in my pasture

My geese should love them also.

 

[casportpony]

There is about 4% protein ;level diffrence between alfalfa thats made from the leaves,vs leaves and stems combined. AugeredIN,,when I get home tonight I will put up a list of diffrent beans-legumes protein levels.I've been in a very steep learning curve on this and when omega3 and omega6 comes into the ration,thats another learning curve.More to come,,indeed

Zaz,alfalfa sprouts are HUGE in almost everything,I'll post those facts too,later this eve

And the protein varies a lot between 1 and last cuttings. Mine like just the leaves, or course, lol.

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Question... what's the ideal calcium to phosporus ratio for peafowl? I read somewhere that chickens are one number and turkeys something else, just curious as to what peas are.

-Kathy

 

[zazouse]

Check out ulta kibble Farmes helper it is suppose to be for peas, that should give you an idea what you are looking for.. i just threw a bag away, figures now i need it LOL

 

[frenchblackcopper]

AugeredIN,,the most beneficial "bean" is the soybean.It has this amount of these ingredients-
Potassium - 1470 mg
Phosphorus - 363 mg
Calcium - 138 mg
Magnesium - 145 mg
Iron - 3.9 mg
Sodium - 4 mg
Manganese - 2.158 mg
Zinc - 3.14 mg
Copper- 0.828 mg
Selenium - 19.1 mcg
100 grams of Soy Beans, roasted without salt contain 35.22 grams of protein, 471 calories and 17.7 grams dietary fiber. But with soybeans close to $14.00 per bushel,and corn around $4.00 per bushel,there are great alternatives such as distillers grain,and corn gluten that are very high (upwards of over 22% protein) to supplement rations with.

Casportpony,,yes the 3rd and 4th alfalfa cuttings have higher protein because the plant is not putting everything into stem growth,rather into the leaves where the protein is actually at.First cutting alfalfa is not as palatable as later cuttings because it's stems are very tough,much like sticks.

My feed recipe is based on pheasants and that ratio is roughly six times the calcium to phosplorus level in breeding birds,Calcium 2.5% where phosphorus is .40%

Laying hens calcium needs is 3.30mg,Phos .25mg
Turkeys Calcium needs is .5mg,Phos .25mg