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Can't comment on the oats, but I don't think it would be good to feed chcikens "whole" corn. Cracked would do the same thing and not to much. At night is good as it helps them generate heat.

I've always feed whole corn. The thing with whole grains is, once you crack them,they start to lose the nutrients faster. Whole grains retain more of the nutrients, so they are utilized by the birds more efficiently. I don't feed corn very often, because its more of a filler or "heat" maker than good for protein. Oats are the best grain for chickens because it has more of the nutrients they need and are most digestable.

Of course, feeding whole oats to chickens that are not used to them takes a while to get used to because they will not like the shape of the oats. What I did was only feed the whole oats for a few days, and they finally gave in at ate them. Now, they practically attack me when I do feeding.

Of course, one has to provide the protein levels that is required fjor egg laying. I use fish meal and alfalfa meal for that, free choice. The positive side of that is, that roosters don't eat as much of the protein mix, as the hens do, so they don't develop the kidney problems that roosters that have to eat the same high protein formutated feed that the hens eat experience.

I've been feeding whole grains for 4 years, and the proof is in the pudding,so they say. I always get positive comments from judges at shows that my birds are in very good condition.

Also, one has to provide good vitamins as well. I was using Red Cell Horse vitamins, and found I had less spraddle leg than with other "poultry" vitamins. Especially since I"m buying oats grown in New York and we are selenium deficient, which helps with muscle development,and red cell is the only one that I've found that has selenium. I put the red cell in the water, which at this time of year is a constant test,because the water freezes and they don't drink like they should. But on the positive side, it contains molasses, and molasses lowers the freezing point of water, so its a win win situation....I put molasses in my horses water so it doesn't freeze as easliy.

AS an aside, this summer & fall, I decided to try another poultry vitamin, and I had much lower egg laying & fertility,so I switched back to red cell. I'm really upset that I didn't stick with what I "Knew" to be better....

I have some results of my "whole grain" feeding program on my website: www.sterlingcenterfarm.com

Just be aware, that I have not been able to update the site in 2 years, as my computer with the site died, taking it with it....

Sue

Sue,
I am new to chickens. I feed my chickens source pellets that I feed my horse.....Do you know anything about it? I have heard of red cell, but have not fed it. Also, glad to hear about the oats. I have been feeding corn scratch, but wanted to switch to oats because the pellet I feed has corn as the first ingredient. Have you found that oats are as calorically dense as corn?
Ginny
 
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I've always feed whole corn. The thing with whole grains is, once you crack them,they start to lose the nutrients faster. Whole grains retain more of the nutrients, so they are utilized by the birds more efficiently. I don't feed corn very often, because its more of a filler or "heat" maker than good for protein. Oats are the best grain for chickens because it has more of the nutrients they need and are most digestable.

Of course, feeding whole oats to chickens that are not used to them takes a while to get used to because they will not like the shape of the oats. What I did was only feed the whole oats for a few days, and they finally gave in at ate them. Now, they practically attack me when I do feeding.

Of course, one has to provide the protein levels that is required fjor egg laying. I use fish meal and alfalfa meal for that, free choice. The positive side of that is, that roosters don't eat as much of the protein mix, as the hens do, so they don't develop the kidney problems that roosters that have to eat the same high protein formutated feed that the hens eat experience.

I've been feeding whole grains for 4 years, and the proof is in the pudding,so they say. I always get positive comments from judges at shows that my birds are in very good condition.

Also, one has to provide good vitamins as well. I was using Red Cell Horse vitamins, and found I had less spraddle leg than with other "poultry" vitamins. Especially since I"m buying oats grown in New York and we are selenium deficient, which helps with muscle development,and red cell is the only one that I've found that has selenium. I put the red cell in the water, which at this time of year is a constant test,because the water freezes and they don't drink like they should. But on the positive side, it contains molasses, and molasses lowers the freezing point of water, so its a win win situation....I put molasses in my horses water so it doesn't freeze as easliy.

AS an aside, this summer & fall, I decided to try another poultry vitamin, and I had much lower egg laying & fertility,so I switched back to red cell. I'm really upset that I didn't stick with what I "Knew" to be better....

I have some results of my "whole grain" feeding program on my website: www.sterlingcenterfarm.com

Just be aware, that I have not been able to update the site in 2 years, as my computer with the site died, taking it with it....

Sue

Sue,
I am new to chickens. I feed my chickens source pellets that I feed my horse.....Do you know anything about it? I have heard of red cell, but have not fed it. Also, glad to hear about the oats. I have been feeding corn scratch, but wanted to switch to oats because the pellet I feed has corn as the first ingredient. Have you found that oats are as calorically dense as corn?
Ginny

No, the oats won't make your chickens fat, unless you feed them too much! I figure about a half cup per adult bird a day.

Sue
 
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I went to highschool in Boonville and elementary in West Leyden. I've experienced their snow. In fourth grade we got snowed in at school and didn't get home until 7:30 at night. Now I live south just a little bit, the snow isn't as bad but I still need the snow boots. I'm sure my chickens wish for boots. They don't even want to step foot in the snow.
 
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Where are you buying your feed? Have you tried Richardson feed down in Vernon Center? That's where I get my feed.

Travis

Me again....went today to Bouckville Mille, (Louis Gale) Oats have gone up to $11.25/100 lbs. pretty soon, I'll have to sell all my chickens to buy feed....

I also went to Carneys, on Rt 31 between 365 & Vernon. His corn is $8 for 75lbs. That would be just under $11 for 100 lbs. That is a lot less than the mills are selling it for.
What does Richardsons charge this year? Last year I think he was selling 75lbs for $9.75 if I'm not mistaken.

Sue
 
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Sue,
I am new to chickens. I feed my chickens source pellets that I feed my horse.....Do you know anything about it? I have heard of red cell, but have not fed it. Also, glad to hear about the oats. I have been feeding corn scratch, but wanted to switch to oats because the pellet I feed has corn as the first ingredient. Have you found that oats are as calorically dense as corn?
Ginny

No, the oats won't make your chickens fat, unless you feed them too much! I figure about a half cup per adult bird a day.

Sue

Sue
I wasn't worried that they would get fat, just the opposite. If oats had as many calories as corn...we have some long cold nights ahead of us. Cold burns a lot of calories!!
Thanks,
Ginny
 
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Where are you buying your feed? Have you tried Richardson feed down in Vernon Center? That's where I get my feed.

Travis

Me again....went today to Bouckville Mille, (Louis Gale) Oats have gone up to $11.25/100 lbs. pretty soon, I'll have to sell all my chickens to buy feed....

I also went to Carneys, on Rt 31 between 365 & Vernon. His corn is $8 for 75lbs. That would be just under $11 for 100 lbs. That is a lot less than the mills are selling it for.
What does Richardsons charge this year? Last year I think he was selling 75lbs for $9.75 if I'm not mistaken.

Sue

I bought oats for $8/75 lbs and layer mix $8/50lbs today. I didn't pay attention to the corn though. My parents had the girls and I was in a hurry to wrap their christmas presents while I had some time to myself. We will not be getting grain again until after the holiday. Would you like their phone #?
 
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Where are you buying your feed? Have you tried Richardson feed down in Vernon Center? That's where I get my feed.

Travis

Me again....went today to Bouckville Mille, (Louis Gale) Oats have gone up to $11.25/100 lbs. pretty soon, I'll have to sell all my chickens to buy feed....

I also went to Carneys, on Rt 31 between 365 & Vernon. His corn is $8 for 75lbs. That would be just under $11 for 100 lbs. That is a lot less than the mills are selling it for.
What does Richardsons charge this year? Last year I think he was selling 75lbs for $9.75 if I'm not mistaken.

Sue

I go to the Bouckville Mill and silly me never thought of getting my oats there. We buy our feed directly from Blue Seal Richer Feeds, but I've been looking to approach this from a more natural angle.
 
I hope everyone here remembers I'm hatching chicks for the spring. Well I'm hatching to replace my two year olds and when I have hens ready to lay. The two year olds my plan is to give them away. CM, BO, GLW, and DOM. and some DEls.
 
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No, the oats won't make your chickens fat, unless you feed them too much! I figure about a half cup per adult bird a day.

Sue

Sue
I wasn't worried that they would get fat, just the opposite. If oats had as many calories as corn...we have some long cold nights ahead of us. Cold burns a lot of calories!!
Thanks,
Ginny

Corn has more carbs, so would have more calories. . Corn is used as filler in a lot of animal feeds to add carbs, but has fewer good nutrients. My birds are in good weight, so I don't worry that much about the cold. Corn used to be cheaper than oats, but not any more. I get more bang for the buck with the oats. I fear corn adds more fat than nutrition so I try to stay away from it. But that is my personal opinnion.
In volume I get more oats than corn, so I would expect, that it would be a wash, but since I don't know, I do throw them some corn when its coldest. And they think its great!
 
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Sue
I wasn't worried that they would get fat, just the opposite. If oats had as many calories as corn...we have some long cold nights ahead of us. Cold burns a lot of calories!!
Thanks,
Ginny

Corn has more carbs, so would have more calories. . Corn is used as filler in a lot of animal feeds to add carbs, but has fewer good nutrients. My birds are in good weight, so I don't worry that much about the cold. Corn used to be cheaper than oats, but not any more. I get more bang for the buck with the oats. I fear corn adds more fat than nutrition so I try to stay away from it. But that is my personal opinnion.
In volume I get more oats than corn, so I would expect, that it would be a wash, but since I don't know, I do throw them some corn when its coldest. And they think its great!

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I had been thinking about switching to back to oats anyway. I always have organic layer pellets as their mainstay. Corn is the first ingredient so I didn't want to over do the corn, but as a newbie I was not sure what to do. I fed whole oats as scratch during the summer and they loved them and I was thinking about switching back to oats anyway. Using some as scratch and trying to sprout some for greens. Have you ever supplemented with a fat (suet) on the coldest of days?
Thanks ,
Ginny
 

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