dose garlic need extreamly rich soil or loose soil when my mom grew it it grew good with no amending that why I don't knlw why mine didn't grow I had faily fertal soil
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As some of you know I buy Practical Poultry magazine and I know it's expensive but I like it. $8.25 an issue.
Well this is for Lynzii and others who may be kicking themselves when they seem to have bad hatch rates. Fred Hams writes an article about "Careful What you Cross"
In it he mentions "in breeding" . Here's a couple of high lights
"One of the first effects of inbreeding noticed by both the researchers and professional poultry keepers, was steadily declining hatchability. This was first reported by researchers using brother to sister matings in 1916, who found that hatchability declined progressively from 67% to 49, 41 and 18% in subsequent generations. Depending on the amount of inbreeding practiced, similar reductions in hatchability have been found by practically every researcher, ever since.
For various reasons, an even greater degree of hatchability decline is likley to be found by hobbyists inbreeding with flocks, and within those breeds most likely to be kept by those that could loosely be described as "the Fancy" (I think this means showers I could be wrong). These people who typically use small or budget-priced incubators, often blame the problems encountered on these machines. (high humidity etc.)
Apart from trying to stabilize desired features that could be described as positive, in practice, many situations see inbreeding practiced out of necessity. Occasionally, a breed that for various reasons has reduced to such small numbers, will have to be bred from full siblings. This can, in turn see new breeders saving from pullets(rather than older hens), bred back to full brothers.
The worst case scenario will be newly imported breeds that may themselves be at best bred, from a single trio or worse, imported eggs where because their perceived rarity tends to attract those new to the Fancy, they are bred on from for several successive generations without a knowledgeable breeder at hand to offer sound advice."
So what's my point? Many times we in the "Fancy" or hobby buy just a trio of birds. These may in fact have been bred by someone else who bought just a trio of birds. Case in point a friend who bought a trio of SLW's and then had a heck of a time getting them to hatch. Certainly they were show quality but for $50 a bird you would expect them to be decent in hatching. Not to mention from someone considered an "expert", a term I loathe. IMO this is something to be aware of when buying from show lines.
In the case of Green Fire farms I have no doubt that there are those who buy just enough to get started and in breeding them hatch from pullet eggs as mentioned or with birds to closely related.
I'll admit to making this mistake myself, which is why I've traded out my Amer roo for an Aruacana. I do believe this may be the reason Araucana breeders may have problems on top of the fatal Allele. Though in my case I just want colored eggs. With my Birchen Marans I saved just the one rooster and four hens due to ignorance and crooked toes. I had to choose the best of the roosters and they all had crooked toes. I bought them as chicks from a so called "breeder".
There was more to the article but there may be those who are kicking themselves for poor hatching when it may not have anything to do with their ability at all IMHO. Which is why I mentioned Lynzii. I don't want her being upset with herself when it might not be her ability at all. I know she was struggling with hatching of all things Silkies.
We should all keep this in mind when we breed or cross our own birds. Certainly one roo may be fine to start but after a couple of generations we may find they just don't lay or have the meat utility we want. It can be difficult when we want to keep a closed flock and not bring in outsiders.
I hope you find this helpful. I couldn't type all that Fred Hams said, but thought for us "Fancies" or hobbyists this part might help.
Love ya all ,
Rancher
Well this is for Lynzii and others who may be kicking themselves when they seem to have bad hatch rates. Fred Hams writes an article about "Careful What you Cross"
In it he mentions "in breeding" . Here's a couple of high lights
"One of the first effects of inbreeding noticed by both the researchers and professional poultry keepers, was steadily declining hatchability. This was first reported by researchers using brother to sister matings in 1916, who found that hatchability declined progressively from 67% to 49, 41 and 18% in subsequent generations. Depending on the amount of inbreeding practiced, similar reductions in hatchability have been found by practically every researcher, ever since.
For various reasons, an even greater degree of hatchability decline is likley to be found by hobbyists inbreeding with flocks, and within those breeds most likely to be kept by those that could loosely be described as "the Fancy" (I think this means showers I could be wrong). These people who typically use small or budget-priced incubators, often blame the problems encountered on these machines. (high humidity etc.)
Apart from trying to stabilize desired features that could be described as positive, in practice, many situations see inbreeding practiced out of necessity. Occasionally, a breed that for various reasons has reduced to such small numbers, will have to be bred from full siblings. This can, in turn see new breeders saving from pullets(rather than older hens), bred back to full brothers.
The worst case scenario will be newly imported breeds that may themselves be at best bred, from a single trio or worse, imported eggs where because their perceived rarity tends to attract those new to the Fancy, they are bred on from for several successive generations without a knowledgeable breeder at hand to offer sound advice."
So what's my point? Many times we in the "Fancy" or hobby buy just a trio of birds. These may in fact have been bred by someone else who bought just a trio of birds. Case in point a friend who bought a trio of SLW's and then had a heck of a time getting them to hatch. Certainly they were show quality but for $50 a bird you would expect them to be decent in hatching. Not to mention from someone considered an "expert", a term I loathe. IMO this is something to be aware of when buying from show lines.
In the case of Green Fire farms I have no doubt that there are those who buy just enough to get started and in breeding them hatch from pullet eggs as mentioned or with birds to closely related.
I'll admit to making this mistake myself, which is why I've traded out my Amer roo for an Aruacana. I do believe this may be the reason Araucana breeders may have problems on top of the fatal Allele. Though in my case I just want colored eggs. With my Birchen Marans I saved just the one rooster and four hens due to ignorance and crooked toes. I had to choose the best of the roosters and they all had crooked toes. I bought them as chicks from a so called "breeder".
There was more to the article but there may be those who are kicking themselves for poor hatching when it may not have anything to do with their ability at all IMHO. Which is why I mentioned Lynzii. I don't want her being upset with herself when it might not be her ability at all. I know she was struggling with hatching of all things Silkies.
I hope you find this helpful. I couldn't type all that Fred Hams said, but thought for us "Fancies" or hobbyists this part might help.
Love ya all ,
Rancher
So I couldn't help myself and candled today. Day 4 lol.. I didn't see anything. Is that normal. I only candled 3 eggs.
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There is such a things as Lasagna gardening and you might consider this in filling your beds. A layer of straw, a layer of chicken cleanings, and/or horse manure a layer of top soil, and so on. The last layer could be a 1 1/2 Cubic of garden soil. Cover the entire thing with black garden cloth or cardboard. Cut holes and stick your plants in . I buy top soil or garden soil when it goes on sale. I have never filled an entire raised bed with purchased soil only. I usually use them on the top layer. Everything will break down as time goes by and then you can just mix it to you hearts content.
Who said they were a chiropractor ? I was looking for that quote ...couldnt find it ..Can anyone help ?
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My mom's husband sent me this on FB thought that it was cute!
Thanks, I might try this! Have you ever done it with pine bedding from a chicken coop? I don't really have a compost pile so I'd have to pull it fresh from the coop and I don't know if that would hurt the plants.
Pyxis I am not rancher but I put my DL in the veggie garden in the spring. I only clean it out once a year so it's probably about 3 feet of DL in there and most of the poop has broken down. The bottom of the DL is a nice brown mixture with a great earthy smell. You can't see chicken poop at all. Actually except what's under the roost you don't see it in the coop. I turn it over once a week or so. That way everything breaks down pretty easy. I didn't have any problems with my veggies burning last year at all.
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