Then you are another pioneer in this, and those of us who have come after are in your debt! Thank you! I always make sure to note that this was not my idea, that I just compiled the how-tos and whys into one thread and posted it. It is, beyond a doubt, the best and safest way to raise chicks - I believe that with my whole little chicken heart!I've done this for years and always recommend it to anyone with babies..I even sent a wire frame and heating pad with my last babies I sold bc the girl was using a heat light and I dint want them having to use a light after a week with the heating pad mama..works just as good if not better than the Brinsea one and just have to wipe the pad down with some bleach water in between sets of babies ♡♡