Oh Craigslist, You Amuse Me So!

[ShrekDawg]

Australian shepherd x Labrador of course!

I did flag the second one as prohibited. I'm mean like that. 

Yeah, I ended up Googling it after. Seems pretty obvious now and I feel pretty dumb although I thought it was some fancy new breed lol

Although that said, now that I know, it really doesn't look that much like either and both those breeds have pretty long or thick coats so how does this dog not? Lol kind of looks part bully breed. Maybe it does have some Aussie or Lab in it but it looks like other breeds too.

Hahaha omg

Probably best, I think a few hundred is a lot let alone $1500. They should put an ad in the paper orrr if they insist on selling, at least use the for sale section

 

[SunHwaKwon]

Yeah, I ended up Googling it after. Seems pretty obvious now and I feel pretty dumb

although I thought it was some fancy new breed lol

Although that said, now that I know, it really doesn't look that much like either and both those breeds have pretty long or thick coats so how does this dog not? Lol kind of looks part bully breed. Maybe it does have some Aussie or Lab in it but it looks like other breeds too.

Hahaha omg

Probably best, I think a few hundred is a lot let alone $1500. They should put an ad in the paper orrr if they insist on selling, at least use the for sale section

I went back and looked at the pics and you're right, doesn't look like an "Aussiedor" at all! Either they were lied to, or they are lying to get it rehomed.

Selling non-livestock animals on Craigslist is prohibited. That is why the "rehoming fee" term is used - it's a loophole. There's no justification for a $1500 rehoming fee, even if you factor in shots, neutering, etc, though.

 

[N F C]

I went back and looked at the pics and you're right, doesn't look like an "Aussiedor" at all! Either they were lied to, or they are lying to get it rehomed.

Selling animals on Craigslist is prohibited. That is why the "rehoming fee" term is used - it's a loophole. There's no justification for a $1500 rehoming fee, even if you factor in shots, neutering, etc, though.

I didn't know you weren't supposed to sell animals on CL...guess since I've never posted anything on it, I haven't read the rules. But I do see animals listed for sale a lot; goats, dogs, cows, horses, chickens, etc. So that's not ok?

 

[SunHwaKwon]

I didn't know you weren't supposed to sell animals on CL...guess since I've never posted anything on it, I haven't read the rules. But I do see animals listed for sale a lot; goats, dogs, cows, horses, chickens, etc. So that's not ok?

Farm animals/livestock are okay, pets are not. I went back and corrected my post above to specify non-livestock.

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[ShrekDawg]

I went back and looked at the pics and you're right, doesn't look like an "Aussiedor" at all! Either they were lied to, or they are lying to get it rehomed. 

Selling non-livestock animals on Craigslist is prohibited. That is why the "rehoming fee" term is used - it's a loophole. There's no justification for a $1500 rehoming fee, even if you factor in shots, neutering, etc, though. 

Yeah, somebody's dog probably just had puppies lol I'm guessing they were lied to but maybe not intentionally, maybe neither really know what breed it is.

Ohhh okay, that makes sense.

Yeah, it is a lot. At that price, you might as well buy from a breeder. Especially how old the dog is, it was 5 months right? Or was it a little puppy? Either way, that's a loooooottttt.. for that price, I'd prefer to get a little puppy that's a blank slate for training, not an older one that who knows how it's been handled up until I got it. OR. I would wait and get an older dog, maybe a year or two old, that's been professionally trained by them or someone else. And it better have **** good genetics. Speaking of which, I would never buy a dog, especially at that price, off of Craigslist. I would go to a breeder. And I actually think for an excellent quality, health tested, dog from a breeder, that's a pretty good price. But not for an unknown quality resell on Craigslist.

Speaking of which, I also haaaateee and don't really get when people say "champion bloodlines", etc. Seems like kind of another loophole or scam to sell puppies? See it all the time in newspaper ads, not as much on CL till that one. Same with "AKC registered."

Anybody can register a dog. Doesn't mean they're good quality and reputable.

And unless the parents themselves or grandparents or something in the immediate lineage are champions, it doesn't mean much to me. Even immediate lineage, I don't care much about champions but it should theoretically mean they have good confirmation at least. And I like to see participation in a sport or work or something too. But ya, "champion lines" mean nothing because the dog's great great great great great grandpa could be a champion and they'll say that lol

Sorry for the rant hahahaha

 

[ShrekDawg]

I didn't know you weren't supposed to sell animals on CL...guess since I've never posted anything on it, I haven't read the rules. But I do see animals listed for sale a lot; goats, dogs, cows, horses, chickens, etc. So that's not ok?

Farm animals/livestock are okay, pets are not. I went back and corrected my post above to specify non-livestock.
Prohibited

Users must comply with all applicable laws, the CL terms of use , and all posted site rules.
Here is a partial list of goods, services, and content prohibited on craigslist:

• weapons; firearms/guns and components; BB/pellet, stun, and spear guns; etc
• ammunition, clips, cartridges, reloading materials, gunpowder, fireworks, explosives
• recalled items ; hazardous materials; body parts/fluids; unsanitized bedding/clothing
• prescription drugs, medical devices; controlled substances and related items
• alcohol or tobacco; unpackaged or adulterated food or cosmetics
• child pornography; bestiality; offers or solicitation of illegal prostitution
• pet sales (re-homing with small adoption fee ok), animal parts, stud service
• endangered, imperiled and/or protected species and any parts thereof, e.g. ivory
• false, misleading, deceptive, or fraudulent content; bait and switch; keyword spam
• offensive, obscene, defamatory, threatening, or malicious postings or email
• anyone’s personal, identifying, confidential or proprietary information
• food stamps, WIC vouchers, SNAP or WIC goods, governmental assistance
• stolen property, property with serial number removed/altered, burglary tools, etc
• ID cards, licenses, police insignia, government documents, birth certificates, etc
• US military items not demilitarized in accord with Defense Department policy
• counterfeit, replica, or pirated items; tickets or gift cards that restrict transfer
• lottery or raffle tickets, sweepstakes entries, slot machines, gambling items
• spam; miscategorized, overposted, cross-posted, or nonlocal content
• postings or email the primary purpose of which is to drive traffic to a website
• postings or email offering, promoting, or linking to unsolicited products or services
• affiliate marketing; network, or multi-level marketing; pyramid schemes
• any good, service, or content that violates the law or legal rights of others

Please don't use CL for these purposes, and flag anyone else you see doing so.
Thanks for helping keep craigslist safe and useful for everyone

Wow, I've seen a lot of that stuff on CL lol

 

[SunHwaKwon]

Yeah, somebody's dog probably just had puppies lol I'm guessing they were lied to but maybe not intentionally, maybe neither really know what breed it is.

Ohhh okay, that makes sense.

Yeah, it is a lot. At that price, you might as well buy from a breeder. Especially how old the dog is, it was 5 months right? Or was it a little puppy? Either way, that's a loooooottttt.. for that price, I'd prefer to get a little puppy that's a blank slate for training, not an older one that who knows how it's been handled up until I got it. OR. I would wait and get an older dog, maybe a year or two old, that's been professionally trained by them or someone else. And it better have **** good genetics. Speaking of which, I would never buy a dog, especially at that price, off of Craigslist. I would go to a breeder. And I actually think for an excellent quality, health tested, dog from a breeder, that's a pretty good price. But not for an unknown quality resell on Craigslist.

Speaking of which, I also haaaateee and don't really get when people say "champion bloodlines", etc. Seems like kind of another loophole or scam to sell puppies? See it all the time in newspaper ads, not as much on CL till that one. Same with "AKC registered."

Anybody can register a dog. Doesn't mean they're good quality and reputable.

And unless the parents themselves or grandparents or something in the immediate lineage are champions, it doesn't mean much to me. Even immediate lineage, I don't care much about champions but it should theoretically mean they have good confirmation at least. And I like to see participation in a sport or work or something too. But ya, "champion lines" mean nothing because the dog's great great great great great grandpa could be a champion and they'll say that lol

Sorry for the rant hahahaha

AKC registered dogs have to have traceable bloodlines. So even though I can do DNA testing on my dog that will confirm it is purebred from what I understand I cannot register him unless I have proof of lineage and the parents are AKC registered. It's really not something that just anyone can do. Champion bloodlines can be hit or miss, you are right, just like buying a puppy that comes from some really great waterfowl retrievers does not mean your dog will be inclined to want to do it. I knew a guy that paid something like $1500 for his puppy and she just was not having it, she basically flunked out of training, while my free Craigslist Chesador is a rock solid hardcore waterfowl dog. lol

ETA I am also agreeing on the "hit or miss" thing about registered dogs. They can come from good purebred blood lines but that does not automatically make them a great (fill in the blank) dog unless perhaps you are talking about conformation for showing.

 

[N F C]

@SunHwaKwon thanks for spelling it out for me!

 

[ShrekDawg]

AKC registered dogs have to have traceable bloodlines. So even though I can do DNA testing on my dog that will confirm it is purebred from what I understand I cannot register him unless I have proof of lineage and the parents are AKC registered. It's really not something that just anyone can do. Champion bloodlines can be hit or miss, you are right, just like buying a puppy that comes from some really great waterfowl retrievers does not mean your dog will be inclined to want to do it. I knew a guy that paid something like $1500 for his puppy and she just was not having it, she basically flunked out of training, while my free Craigslist Chesador is a rock solid hardcore waterfowl dog. lol 

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I knew the parents had to be registered (though didn't realize it was so strict) but what I was saying is someone could theoretically just be a BYB or they got a dog from Uncle Joe who breeds them and they breed too so they have proof of lineage and all the parents are registered - they all come from Joe's dogs but they're not necessarily great. Although maybe that's unlikely? Maybe BYB's are unlikely to register dogs? But some puppy mills do. Or maybe they buy a dog with full registration (cause you definitely can't breed your limited registration dog and register the litter) and then they just keep some puppies or add new blood and keep breeding from that, they came from good lines originally but now maybe not so much.

But maybe I'm wrong and it's not that easy??

But yeah, champion lines are hit or miss for sure. But oh wow, that's a pretty insane story! Poor guy lol but theoretically if the whole family are excellent retrievers, the puppies stand a better chance of being better retrievers? Or how a lot of working BCs have herding instincts even without training. But maybe this guy's dog is the exception lol and wow your dog sounds great! I do think people need to give cheaper or free dogs and "mutts", etc. A chance.

 

[SunHwaKwon]

Sorry if I wasn't clear, I knew the parents had to be registered (though didn't realize it was so strict) but what I was saying is someone could theoretically just be a BYB or they got a dog from Uncle Joe who breeds them and they breed too so they have proof of lineage and all the parents are registered - they all come from Joe's dogs but they're not necessarily great. Although maybe that's unlikely? Maybe BYB's are unlikely to register dogs? But some puppy mills do. Or maybe they buy a dog with full registration (cause you definitely can't breed your limited registration dog and register the litter) and then they just keep some puppies or add new blood and keep breeding from that, they came from good lines originally but now maybe not so much.

But maybe I'm wrong and it's not that easy??

But yeah, champion lines are hit or miss for sure. But oh wow, that's a pretty insane story! Poor guy lol but theoretically if the whole family are excellent retrievers, the puppies stand a better chance of being better retrievers? Or how a lot of working BCs have herding instincts even without training. But maybe this guy's dog is the exception lol and wow your dog sounds great! I do think people need to give cheaper or free dogs and "mutts", etc. A chance.

I gotcha. Well, AKC registration just indicates that they are purebred and come from purebred lines, so there isn't some crossbreed hanging back in the lineage, if that matters to you (the buyer)... though theoretically most every breed was a crossbreed at some point lol. I think some people like it for bragging rights because I don't see it as being good for much else... well, except for being eligible to enter into AKC events. So I guess that's when it matters. But like you pointed out, that doesn't mean they'll be any good at things like agility or obedience, though to a certain degree it does help increase the odds, I suppose. I don't think the majority of backyard breeders bother with it because it comes at a cost. Generally, people are going to want more money for stud service from an AKC dog and what I see with most backyard breeders (like those I see selling animals like candy on CL and FB) is that its about volume not quality, with low overhead and high profits. There is no genetic testing and who cares about medical histories, temperament histories, and so on? It's all about money. I'm not even sure the puppy mills bother with it either. It appears that AKC breeders are subject to inspections and that would be a deterrent to puppy mills - at least the ones we hear about with tiny cages, poor veterinary care, lots of inbreeding, and so on.

I am also with you about not paying for a dog. An adoption fee from a shelter, sure, or money to cover the vet costs so far and that sort of thing, but that's about it. Shelters are the very first place I look for pets and second being lost/strays that are found and the person found them can't keep them. It's not because I don't think an animal is worth it, but that money is better spent toward good health care and food, and I don't think the type of money that is spent on these animals is justified. In a sense it just perpetuates objectifying them and making them disposable, if that makes any sense. I guess you could say the same about free animals though. There's just no winning.

I really, really wish more people would be responsible about spaying and neutering their animals. Especially the pit bulls and not because I have anything against the breed but there are SO MANY of them with no homes and yet people just keep breeding them! It's insane and irresponsible.

ETA this thread really goes off on a lot of tangents lol. At least no ones throwing a fit like the "stupid things people said about your chickens" thread (or whatever its called)