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[GotGame]

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What colors are crossed to get the Opels?

here is what i know about the opal it is a deluted selblue in the genatics for self blue there is a white masking geen when this geen is show it makes an opal
sjarvis may be able to share more about the genetics but and opal is a white massked self blue i have heard some breeders say it is like dun when breeding dun to dun you can get kacky

Opal is not diluted self blue, nor does it breed like dun. Both andalusian blue and dun are incomplete dominant, neither opal nor self blue throw a sport as does and. Blue and dun. Opals are closely related to recessive white.

 

[Buckguy20]

MERRY CHRISTMAS ONE AND ALL!

JESUS

 

[upcdayz]

Hope everyone is safe in their travels and has a wonderful Christmas.

 

[sjarvis00]

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Everything I have here at the moment is OE bantams, I have been looking for some real nice Rosecombs for a while, they will arrive next fall but would like to find two hens or pullets to get started with before hatching season hits.
Over the next few years I will be adding a few varieties of Rosecomb.
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30249_04nat-bb-bvnationalchampion.jpg

https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30249_blackfarmington.jpg

Adding Birchen,
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30249_birchen_cock_2.jpg

Adding Columbian,
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30249_cockrell.jpg

Adding Opal,
https://www.backyardchickens.com/forum/uploads/30249_sany2038.jpg

I think those colors will look outstanding on the Rosecomb body.

What colors are crossed to get the Opels?

Les,
Opal is not a cross of colors, based on testing it is a mutation of recessive white that also acts upon genetic gold to create the hackle color in both sexes, saddle and wing bow of male. they also carry DB, ML, anc CO to create the faint lacing on each of teh body feathers. It is an incomplete reccesive and never dominant. They react very interestingly as they sun fade to white and only show color well when raised out of direct sun.

 

[GotGame]

Self blue does not have a white masking gene, it's simply a recessive gene. Again, opal is not diluted self blue.

 

[sjarvis00]

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Joe,
you are way off base, with the exception of a few birds that were crossed to Self Blue, there is no Lavendar acting on the color nor is it involved in teh birds genetically at any level.
They have periodically popped up out of other varieties since 1986 but most often culled and teh breeders that created them were often culled as well. They are actually the likely result of a breed cross possibly D'anver, or something else well known for Rec. white, as teh birds where often very loosly feathered, and soft bodied opposed to the OE body and feather.

 

[sjarvis00]

i would like to wish everyone a merry christmas, and safe travels through the holiday season. may you all enjoy the holiday for what it was intended to be.

 

[nnbreeder]

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What colors are crossed to get the Opels?

Les,
Opal is not a cross of colors, based on testing it is a mutation of recessive white that also acts upon genetic gold to create the hackle color in both sexes, saddle and wing bow of male. they also carry DB, ML, anc CO to create the faint lacing on each of teh body feathers. It is an incomplete reccesive and never dominant. They react very interestingly as they sun fade to white and only show color well when raised out of direct sun.

Why I was wondering is that we bought a set of Duns and they got the wonderful coloring in the hackle and saddle feathers. Likewise we had an offspring out of one of my larger cages that is ShamoXwhite Leghorn and it turned out looking like the OEGB of the old days without the wing drop and puffy chest and he is an Opel. I was trying to figure out who the daddy was as there was multiple roosters in there. LOL

 

[nnbreeder]

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Wow that was harsh, glad I'm not a serious breeder!!





Merry Christmas everyone.

 

[GotGame]

If you breed a dun to a dun, you will occasionally get a dun sport, which is similar in appearance to an opal but minus the fine lacing, and the dun sport would have a wing bay, which an opal does not gave