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I know heat negatively affects rabbit bucks (renders them practically infertile) could that be the case with chickens?

It doesn't affect the fertility of the egg usually- BUT it does affect hatchability, as the eggs begin to incubate in the heat of the day, then you bring them in to the counter and they are killed by room temps before you put them in the bator.

I'm confused about the information I'm finding on broody hens. I've got one that's been like that for about a week. I just keep going out there and shooing her out of the nesting box. Is there something simple I can do? How long will this last? I don't want chicks right now and I'm worried about Susie Q's health.
If you don't want chicks the very best way to break her is to put her in a wire bottomed cage with a fan blowing under her. Broodies have a raised body temperature, and this helps break them. If she's been broody for a week she will need to stay in the "Broody Breaker" box for about 4-5 days.

@hotcurltr that looks like spraddleleg to me. There's all sorts of theories about why it happens, but it's pretty easy to correct. I've found sports tape is the best... that fabric that sticks to itself that the doctor wraps your arm in after they take blood. You cut a short strip to wrap around each leg, then a longer strip that goes around both legs and holds them the correct length apart. It can correct overnight like that if you catch it fast enough.

I'm not sure why you're not getting fertile eggs, because he was a love machine with my hens. Several of his girls are just now getting old enough to be chased by Orlando and Einstein. I just farmed out several of his boys, and one of them was velociraptor size; he'll feed a family and provide sandwiches on saturday.

Okay, you guys tell me what you think. This is Marshmallow... Toasted Marshmallow. I've been convinced she's a she, and I think it's become apparent. Am I wrong?




And just because, I have to show off my Einstein! I know he's not perfectly colored, but I think he's gorgeous!


I don't see any saddle feathers and her legs aren't noticably thick, I'm thinking girl nearing point of lay?

Einstein actually isn't too bad considering the condition of most US Cream Legbars! As an example, this is Charley, my original boy, from @Poco Pollo . Gold, short-backed, very overcolored shoulders, squirrel tail, pale legs, uncrested. He's average for the first few import lines from Greenfire Farms, but the advice I got from the UK show breeders was "cull him and buy something better" which wasn't an option. I'm very pleased with the progress I've made.


This is his son, Hugger, who is my breeding boy right now. Cream coloring, much less chestnus on the shoulders, improvements on stance and back length, some leg color improvement, slightly better tail. BUT he is uncrested or not well crested, he carries the white sport gene AND only has one blue egg gene instead of two- which I didn't discover until his daughters started laying this spring.


This is one of his boys, I'm test mating him to some hatchery RIR to test for his egg color genetics. Saw him attempting to mount a hen for the first time today.




And these are two boys I will be playing with this fall- from another breeder known to be free of the defects I am fighting in my line, their weaknesses are my strengths:
 
Rinda, thanks so much! I kept hearing about the coloration of US legbar roos and thought he had way too much gold tone, but I doubt I'll ever be breeding toward a show standard and he's beautiful to me. He's trying to mount everything, so I think it's time to build a blue egg pen. One of my Minorcas is hitting point of lay and I think the brilliant white eggs I just started seeing are hers, so she'll be part of his flock.

So how will breeding to a RIR indicate egg genes for you? Or will you have to wait to see if all the chicks lay green eggs?
 
UGGGH. I am totally ate UP with mosquito bites. Went for a 30 minute run early Monday morning and didn't realize they'd be out in full force. The hubs has ZERO bites.
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It doesn't affect the fertility of the egg usually- BUT it does affect hatchability, as the eggs begin to incubate in the heat of the day, then you bring them in to the counter and they are killed by room temps before you put them in the bator.

If you don't want chicks the very best way to break her is to put her in a wire bottomed cage with a fan blowing under her. Broodies have a raised body temperature, and this helps break them. If she's been broody for a week she will need to stay in the "Broody Breaker" box for about 4-5 days.


I don't see any saddle feathers and her legs aren't noticably thick, I'm thinking girl nearing point of lay?

Einstein actually isn't too bad considering the condition of most US Cream Legbars! As an example, this is Charley, my original boy, from @Poco Pollo . Gold, short-backed, very overcolored shoulders, squirrel tail, pale legs, uncrested. He's average for the first few import lines from Greenfire Farms, but the advice I got from the UK show breeders was "cull him and buy something better" which wasn't an option. I'm very pleased with the progress I've made.


This is his son, Hugger, who is my breeding boy right now. Cream coloring, much less chestnus on the shoulders, improvements on stance and back length, some leg color improvement, slightly better tail. BUT he is uncrested or not well crested, he carries the white sport gene AND only has one blue egg gene instead of two- which I didn't discover until his daughters started laying this spring.


This is one of his boys, I'm test mating him to some hatchery RIR to test for his egg color genetics. Saw him attempting to mount a hen for the first time today.




And these are two boys I will be playing with this fall- from another breeder known to be free of the defects I am fighting in my line, their weaknesses are my strengths:
Thanks lonnyandrinda I'm considering doing that if I can't find another way that doesn't involve separating her and using a fan, since I don't have a realistic way to do this. I'm sure there are other methods even if they take longer or are a little less effective.
 
Rinda, thanks so much! I kept hearing about the coloration of US legbar roos and thought he had way too much gold tone, but I doubt I'll ever be breeding toward a show standard and he's beautiful to me. He's trying to mount everything, so I think it's time to build a blue egg pen. One of my Minorcas is hitting point of lay and I think the brilliant white eggs I just started seeing are hers, so she'll be part of his flock.

So how will breeding to a RIR indicate egg genes for you? Or will you have to wait to see if all the chicks lay green eggs?


Rir specifically doesn't matter, I jus have to breed him to a non-blue egg layer and wait for them to grow up and lay. If I get all brown eggs then dad has no blue egg genes. If half are green he carries one blue egg ene. If they are all green layers then he is homozygous to blue egg gene(two copies).


Thanks lonnyandrinda I'm considering doing that if I can't find another way that doesn't involve separating her and using a fan, since I don't have a realistic way to do this. I'm sure there are other methods even if they take longer or are a little less effective.


Go out several time a day and kick her out of the nest. Or just in a wire cage in the open so the wind can blow under her, you don't have to use a fan.
 
Rir specifically doesn't matter, I jus have to breed him to a non-blue egg layer and wait for them to grow up and lay. If I get all brown eggs then dad has no blue egg genes. If half are green he carries one blue egg ene. If they are all green layers then he is homozygous to blue egg gene(two copies).
Go out several time a day and kick her out of the nest. Or just in a wire cage in the open so the wind can blow under her, you don't have to use a fan.
Thanks rinda, that's what I've been doing and I've opened up the coop really well so the air is flowing really well. I have a wire cage I'll put her in if that doesn't do it. I would love to have chicks, but hubby says no more chickens.
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I'm gonna keep working on him.
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Just in case I change my mind, do hens do this on a schedule, do they all get broody, etc?
 

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