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Silly, I know what NPIP is. My flock is certified. What I am asking is , who or what are you saying you have to be NPIP certified for? You can show your chickens without it and you can sell your chickens without it. I don't know who said you HAVE to be Certified? And NPIP only test for Typhoid and Pullorum, not flu of any kind.

I want to be NPIP, I ship chicks and birds and I sell to 4H. This is a personal preference. I do not show birds but not all shows require NPIP but the larger shows do. When I sell a bird, chicks or eggs to some one they know that we are pullorum typhiod clean. You would be suprised how many people will Just buy from only an NPIP Flock even if they are not certified. There is more of a market for NPIP flocks to sell. What my point is that if I buy birds from someone local they MUST be Npip. The birds will still be seperated in a seperate coop for 30 days.
Nate

NPIP doesn't test for much though. To me (as a buyer) all it signifies is a piece of paper that doesn't mean a whole lot. It doesn't mean the birds aren't carriers of several of other thousands of diseases. Just those few it tests for. Now this is only my opinion but people put too much stock in NPIP. I'd buy birds raised only on one person's land for 10 times more than I'd pay for an NPIP bird at some auction. I bought 2 "NPIP" birds online from a "so-called good breeder". 1 arrived dead, both were missing chunks of feathers all over their bodies, they had poop caked on their feet so thick and hard it was obvious they'd been raised in it. So, like I said, NPIP means nothing to me and it certainly doesn't mean the bird isn't carrying some fatal disease.
So what am I missing in the "importance" of NPIP?
 
Jsut got off the phone with my niece in Okla. She is at the Stilwell auction! Her and Joe were telling me all the good things that were there! I could hear crowing and quacking and gobbiling in the back ground! Not a nice thing to do to someone suffering from sale withdrawals!lol. Our next sale isn't till next week,I've already got the trailer loaded!lol
Neice said there were lots of turkeys and some coronations and some of Joes great New Hampshires. and a lot of different bantams. She is going to bid on a chocolate mottled bantam turken roo for me. If I get it I'll have to start looking for hens again. And of course at the last sale there were some excellent little hens sold. I didn't think I would need them so didn't bid on them!Should have known.
It was like a spring afternoon here. Sure enjoyed being outside. Fixed a couple of rabbit hutches and free ranged the chickens.
Well I need to call those two evil chicken sale goers back and see what else I'm missing!lol
 
When the cat is away the mouse will play. Gary is in OKC for work, he's been there all day today and spending the night and won't be back until tomorrow ................................ so ...................................................... I got out the power tools!!!!! I am tired and sore but I got one of my projects finished. Did a digit count afterwards and I still have them all!
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I want to be NPIP, I ship chicks and birds and I sell to 4H. This is a personal preference. I do not show birds but not all shows require NPIP but the larger shows do. When I sell a bird, chicks or eggs to some one they know that we are pullorum typhiod clean. You would be suprised how many people will Just buy from only an NPIP Flock even if they are not certified. There is more of a market for NPIP flocks to sell. What my point is that if I buy birds from someone local they MUST be Npip. The birds will still be seperated in a seperate coop for 30 days.
Nate

NPIP doesn't test for much though. To me (as a buyer) all it signifies is a piece of paper that doesn't mean a whole lot. It doesn't mean the birds aren't carriers of several of other thousands of diseases. Just those few it tests for. Now this is only my opinion but people put too much stock in NPIP. I'd buy birds raised only on one person's land for 10 times more than I'd pay for an NPIP bird at some auction. I bought 2 "NPIP" birds online from a "so-called good breeder". 1 arrived dead, both were missing chunks of feathers all over their bodies, they had poop caked on their feet so thick and hard it was obvious they'd been raised in it. So, like I said, NPIP means nothing to me and it certainly doesn't mean the bird isn't carrying some fatal disease.
So what am I missing in the "importance" of NPIP?

Believe me, you are not missing a thing. I know someone, who shall remain nameless who is a NPIP independent tester. Certified through the state. And can tell you that out of her 1100 birds at least forty percent are sickly in some manner. But because she is CERTIFIED, she has a hatchery license and her flock can be shipped worldwide. This was my first year and I won't have it done again. I took the class and can test if needed, but what good is it?
 
Hubby had a biopsy done on a growth on his lower lip last week. He went in to get the results and to have the stitches removed. He will have additional surgery next Thursday. It is Grade 2, squamous cell carcinoma. Fortunately the doctor doesn't think the lymph nodes are involved yet. But he wants to go back in to collect any other differentiated tissue. That was a sock in the lip so to speak. He took it in stride. Spent the rest of the day working on the metal caps for the chimneys.

MIL, SIL and her hubby came by as well as two neighbors. I tried to spend time in the hen house rearranging and getting ready for the expansion. The eggs from Iowa came and I have collected a few dozen eggs from our productive girls. Everything was in a tizzy around here today. I'm just now heating up dinner.

Carl and Stephanie....will anyone be around tomorrow morning so I can bring the eggs to you for hatching? PM me.

DGibson, how did your NPIP testing go?
 
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Funny for so many things - 5 mice!, Hens puzzled!, cats bobbing for mice! Fast food for hawks!
Those are pretty marked cats too, one looks like an ocelot.
 
Hello Everybody!!!

So who is going to the auction tomorrow night??? I am so jonesing for an auction it is not even funny. Not even really wanting to buy anything specifically just want to hang with cool chicken people. Of course if I do happen to find some birds that would be good canidates for my breeding program then they will definitely be joining the flock.

As for NPIP everyone is talking about, here is the deal, you need to make sure to check the quality of care the birds are given before buying them. You can buy birds at auctions even if you are NPIP, they just have to be quarantined for a certain amount of time in a specific distance from your flock and be tested before they are incorporated into the flock. Of course the birds have to be 5 months old to be tested.

Well hope to see you all have a great evening and a wonderful night. Hope to see a lot of BYCers at the auction tomorrow night.
 

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