Gary and I have had a fundimental difference of opinion for many years now, that has just reached an acceptable compromise. Gary does not like leathal mouse traps, he likes the catch and release kind, which to me is just an invitation to catch them again. Since he is the one that usually gets the traps and deals w/ them we have used those kind of traps. Well the other day he had a trapped one and he was gone, so I was the one needing to release it, which I did ...................................... in the chicken run! Problem solved, my girls made sure that mouse will never be in my house again and got a little extra protien for their trouble.