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[Buckguy20]

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I'm glad you embarassed Gerald ... that was SO FUNNY!

But, who told you it was my birthday? It's another month away .... that was TOTALLY EMBARRASING! I hate to say this, but Somebody lied!

Al said it was your birthday. So I blame Al.

Anyway a month from now we won't have to get dressed up and sing to you.

 

[Buckguy20]

Man it is hot today.
After I got through unloading, feeding, and watering I was burning up so I decided to hop in the pool for a minute. Talk about a cool down. It was 70 degrees. I didn't stay too long.

 

[quenston]

Monty I am sure that we wont live this down at least not with this group!!! Oh and Monty if ya want send me your email and I will send you the video as well!

As for what I am sending Al all it is is the video of the world famous Chickendales!!!!

 

[okcarla]

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I'm glad you embarassed Gerald ... that was SO FUNNY!

But, who told you it was my birthday? It's another month away .... that was TOTALLY EMBARRASING! I hate to say this, but Somebody lied!

Al said it was your birthday. So I blame Al.

Anyway a month from now we won't have to get dressed up and sing to you.

Well, so we probably have Gerald & Al to blame for the lie. So, now that you put it that way ... thank you for singing to me .... at the time I sure didn't enjoy it, but I got over it and I guess I appreciate it now.

I guess maybe it was kinda neat having 4 guys, dressed in drag singing to me.

 

[okcarla]

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Just post it on youtube so we can all enjoy it. Come on .... pretty please??????

 

[nnbreeder]

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Betsy,
As I was trying to decide where to put various birds last night, I thought to myself, "pretty sure the partridge silkie that Jaxon got from Betsy is from a NPIP flock and won't need to be tested."

It was nice to meet you. When you have some time, would you mind explaining the curved spine/sleep deprived connection? I only caught part of the discussion and it made me wonder later whether I am harming my birds physically by keeping a light on all night in the winter, to keep them laying.

I also enjoyed meeting you. I wish I'd had more time and energy for ust plain visiting!

This is just one theory on the possible cause of the curved spine and wry tail. When I noticed it in one of my otherwise gorgeous young black roos, I did a bit of internet research.

I found a paper regarding the use of scoliosis in chickens in regard to possible causes of scoliosis in humans. The prevalent thought (though I think not conclusively proven) was that sleep deprivation, causing a lack of melatonin was one cause of scoliosis. I think it was related to the period of bone growth in young birds, rather than causing problems in adult birds where bone growth has stopped.

I'd long been concerned about the amount of supplementary light that goes into raising chicks, from some of the incubators with light bulbs as a heat source, to brooders and even coops that use white incandescent bulbs.

I can understand using these lights for warmth and to improve laying and hasten growth, but was concerned about the effect on my own small flock.

I've gotten rid of the 'bator with the light bulb, and now use blue or red lights in my main brooder, and 75 watt reptile lights in my smaller brooders. They are more expensive, but the chicks seem to sleep much more normally. I'd noticed that chicks and keets that had the bright lights seemed to grow faster than hen raised chicks, but both ultimately reached about the same size. I've never used lights in my regular pens, partly because they are fairly close to a security light across the gulley. Their pens have light from it, but their individual houses do not.

To me, it stands to reason that we're better off duplicating natural conditions as much as possible. When you think of it, chicks spend a great deal of time in the dark--even in the daytime under their Moms. I would think that the rest period of shorter daylight and less egg-laying might be one of nature's way of allowing hens to recover from the stress of egg laying. I don't mean this as criticism in any way, just my random thoughts.

The other two theories I've read of and heard discussed regarding the curved spines and wry tails, are that of a recessive gene and/or too rich feed, causing "over growth," especially as breeders work toward shorter backs to improve conformation. I think the prevalent theory is the genetic connection. It is also the one I feel is most likely.

I've also been more careful about overfeeding youngsters, and have introduced more and more different bloodlines into my flock.

I wish there were definitive information about this condition, but haven't yet found it. I have learned it is a condition that is widely present in many flocks.

Hope this is helpful.

Betsey that makes a lot of sense. I know Parakeets can go mad and actually die from not having enough covered time. And look at how many raise broilers with minimal problems by just watching their feed intake. The only difference I can see is that the commercial houses use lights to stimulate eating. Same way with the hens. A layer is usually burned out by the second season but I have hens close to ten years old that still lay like troopers.

 

[CityClucks]

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Just post it on youtube so we can all enjoy it. Come on .... pretty please??????

Yeah! Why can't we all see it?

 

[bigokie37]

feb 27th
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[Buckguy20]

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Miss February, I guess that makes me Miss January.

 

[poultryand bees]

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I was well on the way home, when I set up and said "Oh no, the DE!"

. I even had your money neatly put in an envelope........and left at the bottom of a box in the truck!

I may be able to still get it sometime... will you be at Newcatle or Idable's shows?

I may try to go to the Newcastle show - since it is so close and I love to walk around and see all the pretty birds. I will just leave it in the car for now - didn't I read that the Newcastle show is the 3rd of October?