Thanks Betsy. I have some cattle electrolytes for weak calves it is very water soluble think that would be ok? The little fella is lookin better this afternoon still not up and running but not happy when you mess with him either. I have been slowly removing bits of shell and its almost all detatched the last bit I'll save for someone with smaller hands. My hands are so big I have trouble picking my nose much less a gosling naval. I'm afraid i'll tug too hard and out comes the guts I don't want to be that person. I decided against tying the naval off with suture it looks like the suture would just cut it in 2. Thanks for bumping me up a while ago sooner I gues there aren't many goose officials on today.