lol Don, I am good with a shovel with a snake. You could make sushi out of it when I am done. Like I said, I will feed them on my terms, but again they cant read and I dont see them. I sure do not want to draw any more than is already here that is for sure. So I am sorry for them they gotta go. When I am out with the chicks it looks like I am the Pied Piper. They follow me everywhere.