OMG...I am Shocked!!!

[Bec]

I agree but why express your emotion or opinion if you are going to feel worse afterward? This forum to me is a fun place where there are friendly people, you learn a lot and I sign off feeling good...Maybe I am just overly sensitive to people's reactions, but I felt like I was being attacked for having feeling the way I do.
I can't save the world but if I can make a difference when it comes to these particular babies, then I have atleast done something. I will then have affected the lives and fate of these particular babies.

I am leaving it at that and I won't be commenting anymore on this thread.......event though I started it, I do regret it.

Oh and I got a call from the teacher, and I will be getting the babies....

 

[Guitartists]

Congrats on your soon to be new chickies!

 

[ascott1978]

Way to take action in your beliefs that you had. I hope they grow up happy and safe.

 

[patandchickens]

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Carnivorous zoo animals will still have to eat *something*...


Pat

 

[Moonwalker]

Many zoos and other places that have animals that eat chicks DO get surplus male chicks from hatcheries all the time, as well as non producing and "retired" hens from egg farms. They also have contracts for the "Not suitable for human consumption" by products from meat farms as well. (yes, I have cared for many reptiles and big cats)
Not ALL 4-H projects end up this way. I think those guidelines were for a specific region. Many do go to farms or with proper releases from parents, go home with the kids. In areas where the zoning laws strictly prohibit the keeping of any kind of farm animals, the only way to allow these projects is to have it in writing that ALL the chicks will be collected and properly "disposed of"
As someone else posted "At least they don't just end up in the trash" And some teachers, even with this type of system, have made arrangements to have the chicks adopted by individuals or farms outside the zoned areas. (NOTE: it states the chicks may not "go home" with STUDENTS. The 4-H program has to adhere to local zoning laws. Once the chicks are actually back in the possesion of 4-H, as long as they are taken outside the zoned area, other disposition can be made)

 

[CathyB]

Good luck with you soon to be new babies! Sorry you feel your thread went off track or out of countol........

 

[NYREDS]

Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay :

I don't understand anyone having an issue with this educational experience and the useful manner in which the chicks are utilized!!

It appears to be a win-win for all involved. Instead of being worried about whether the children know the fate of the "cute, cuddly, poor, defenseless" chicks we should be praising the fact that someone is trying to teach non-farm children the rudimentary basics of life and where food comes from.

Jim

Couldn't have said it better-thanks. There's an unreality about some posts on this board that sometimes makes me feel like a stranger in a strange land.​

 

[Flyman39]

"Couldn't have said it better-thanks. There's an unreality about some posts on this board that sometimes makes me feel like a stranger in a strange land."


There is most definately an "unreality"in that far too many people anymore have seen way too many disney movies and assign animals the same characteristics that cartoonists do. They are very far removed from reality.

 

[Lazy J Farms Feed & Hay]

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I feel no remorse over the post I made.

I have to agree with others that there are far too many anthropormorphic attitudes with misplaced compassion and unrealistic, unnatural views of Nature and Livestock.

Jim

 

[AussieSharon]

I understand the need to feed zoo animals. Everything has to eat.... but it would be nice if the chicks were first offered to the kids hatching them... parent approval of course.. especially since there is a bator rental fee etc.

A big part of my love and learning about chickens, which has continued into my adult life and passed on to my kids was a High School project. Chicks were hatched and with letters of approval from parents, chicks were taken home. We were given all the info needed to care for chicks and raise them BEFORE bringing them home. So parents knew up front what raising adult chickens would require.

For me it was a wonderful learning experience and my own little backyard flock of 5 chickens. I'm 37 and can you believe my high school buddies that I keep contact with and I still talk about our "pet chickens from school"