Open mouth breathing and stomach issues

[Goosebaby]

How’s Roxby this evening ?

Last night his digestion started up and he started passing some large dark green droppings. He gaped off and on all night.
Today he hasn’t wanted to eat, he feels awful, and he hasn’t stopped gaping. He was a little better this morning, he had a walk about and managed to pretend not to be sick in front of the others, but he doesn’t feel good and his stomach hurts, I can tell because he stands with his feet splayed.

 

[Goosebaby]

He has awful rancid looking brown diarrhea today too.

Something weird I noticed is that his voice doesn’t seem any different. When my gander Thor had asper “confirmed by vet” years ago his voice was hoarse and weird. Roxby’s voice is normal. If he does have asper maybe it hasn’t reached his syrinx yet.

I haven’t found any worms in his droppings, or more of those black strings, so if he had worms they’d be the most resilient things to survive so much safe guard. I decided to quite with that because it didn’t look like it improved his condition at all.
I still wonder if he has Candida making his stomach so upset, that and asper, yesterday he sneezed a few times, today it’s been fairly often, no runny nose or discharge, it’s a weird dry sneeze. I’d assume he had sinusitis, but he doesn’t have crackling breathing like the last time he had it in the middle of summer.

 

[Goosebaby]

He’s still really itchy too, just his face though.

 

[Goosebaby]

I now have no idea what’s going on here and probably the only thing that could tell me is some serious diagnostic work, which I’m not in a place to afford.

Last night around 6 his breathing issues subsided, no open mouth breathing, no labored breathing. He was spared that all night.
He’s doing it just slightly this morning but it’s very subtle.
He refused to eat all day yesterday, still won’t eat now.

But, I don’t know if it’s part of the swallowing problem or something with his respiration, he has this new symptom that I’ve never seen before.

He starts dry sneezing and shaking his head, not stretching and shaking like he would if he was trying to dislodge something, instead his head and neck are scrunched up while he shakes and twists his head.

Anyone heard of this or seen it in anything?

 

[Goosebaby]

I got him to eat a tablespoon of banana. Half hour later and he’s wide open mouth gaping.

So he eats something and it effects his breathing. Maybe his liver is enlarged? He doesn’t have ascites, I felt around for his organs, I’m not sure what’s what but nothing really stands out to me like it’s too big or in the wrong spot, that doesn’t mean much of anything though because I probably couldn’t tell anyway.

 

[Goosebaby]

Roxby having trouble swallowing, it seems to be painful https://www.instagram.com/tv/CWHLvaag2p5/?utm_medium=copy_link

Gaping
https://www.instagram.com/p/CWHT90rg2a7/?utm_medium=copy_link

 

[Goosebaby]

He was 14.2 pounds last Thursday.
Today he’s 11.6 pounds.

 

[Goosebaby]

Update on Roxby.

Roxby’s digestive troubles have mostly resolved. He is eating fine, passing droppings fine, the swallowing thing happens only occasionally.

His open mouthed breathing is still present. He breaths heavily at times but it doesn’t see to be as labored as before, though not by much.
At night when he relaxes and sleeps his breathing issues subside, but during the day they seem worse, infact every day seems a little worse, he also sneezes more and more, and as of today it sounds like he’s lightly wheezing.

I wondered if his liver was enlarged but his droppings now look completely normal, no discolored urine or urates so I doubt that’s an issue for now.

His heart doesn’t sound abnormal, I can hear a typical “1 2, 1 2, 1 2,” no arythmia or whooshing. I’m not using a stethoscope and Iam not an expert on heart health so my observations don’t mean all that much. He could have a mild heart problem but I don’t think it would be the source of his breathing issues at this stage.

I’m pretty sure this is asper. His voice isn’t altered but that could easily be because it isn’t in his syrinx, and he was exposed to mold spores while his immune system was vulnerable fighting off whatever caused his bowl infection, possibly Candida. I think Candida could be the source of his itchy face.

I have amphotericin B https://birdpalproducts.com/product...tericin-b-megabac?_pos=1&_sid=12257ea9e&_ss=r
It isn’t powder and it doesn’t have any information on how diluted it is so I can’t measure it out for nebulization unfortunatly, I would have preferred to nebulize him, so I’m going to administer it into his water by the instructions listed.

Whatever the outcome, I know that this disease isn’t treatable with current medicine, I know the most I’ll be doing is buying him some time. I’ll be greatful just to relieve his symptoms for now so that he can have maybe one last spring and summer.

 

[Wyorp Rock]

I think Candida could be the source of his itchy face.

Sounds like he's improving.

If you think the itchy face is caused by yeast or fungal infection, then why don't you first try applying an anti-fungal/yeast cream topically first, before you go with such strong medication like the Amphotericin B. Sometimes less is more. Giving the body a break from treatment/medications and just going back to the basics a lot of times will help resolve issue.

 

[Goosebaby]

Sounds like he's improving.

If you think the itchy face is caused by yeast or fungal infection, then why don't you first try applying an anti-fungal/yeast cream topically first, before you go with such strong medication like the Amphotericin B. Sometimes less is more. Giving the body a break from treatment/medications and just going back to the basics a lot of times will help resolve issue.

I actually tried that, it didn’t work. For the last few weeks he was on nothing but natural antifungals “cinnamon and thyme,” + a cream. He was getting worse. I wormed him this last week, no change. I put him on Flucon this last week and his stomach issues finally subsided. His candida infection wasn't on his face, it’s in his face and digestive tract. The breathing is just getting worse though, maybe because fluconazole has little effect on Aspergillus species.

So far this morning he’s just standing around sneezing and gaping.