Organic Non GMO Wholesome Feed?

[freebird2014]

I just found this at my local Tractor Supply. I checked their website and they are non-GMO as well. YAY!

 

[Cindy in PA]

I just found this at my local Tractor Supply. I checked their website and they are GMO as well. YAY!
Did you mean Non GMO? I doubt Nature's Best Organic says on their website that it is GMO!

 

[freebird2014]

Ok, I fixed the post.
- Thanks Cindy and Shortgrass.

 

[freebird2014]

But this one sure does look yummy.

 

[shortgrass]

meant to say- NON GMO. 

You can still edit it if you want to; I would lol

The little pencil under the post will allow you to edit, just in case you weren't sure how to do it

 

[ladyearth]

yeah but you got to watch the dates at TSC.. I called the company to find what each lot number meant>> The lady said they now put the year at the end of the "lot number"""
so I bought the top bag only a few had "16" at the end of the lot number on the bag sewing on label
they had some Manna pro organic for MONTHS the same bag...
It's just chickens right? rahhhh....
thanks yall

 

[Sylvester017]

We use Scratch and Peck organic no-corn, no-soy, non-GMO layer feed and like that it's not cooked or process-pressed and our chickens like it - we add cooked organic aromatic brown rice so the flaky powdery parts of the supplements stick to the rice and doen't get wasted. Found the following blurb by a Health Reporter website re: GMO


"Even if you already distrust genetically modified foods…
This new research will REALLY freak you out.
According to one of the world's leading bio-geneticists…
There's a common pesticide that's inside ALL genetically engineered foods…
(It was put there by Monsanto by the way)
And it's been linked EXPLICITLY to Alzheimer's, Dementia, and memory loss.
This "brain killing pesticide" is called glyphosate…
And considering that 90% of all foods in the supermarket and restaurants have glyphosate in them…
Chances are extremely high that you and your loved ones are at serious risk..."

 

[paneubert]

"Even if you already distrust genetically modified foods…
This new research will REALLY freak you out.
According to one of the world's leading bio-geneticists…
There's a common pesticide that's inside ALL genetically engineered foods…
(It was put there by Monsanto by the way)
And it's been linked EXPLICITLY to Alzheimer's, Dementia, and memory loss.
This "brain killing pesticide" is called glyphosate…
And considering that 90% of all foods in the supermarket and restaurants have glyphosate in them…
Chances are extremely high that you and your loved ones are at serious risk..."

No offense to you. Seriously. Please separate my judgment and critical comments that follow to be directed at the blog/"Health Reporter" and not you. I agree that non-GMO is preferable whenever available and it is always better to be safe than sorry. But that being said.....that blurb you found is just utter crap.

1. Glyphosate is not inside ALL genetically engineered foods. Why would it be? It is a weed killer......what link does that have to GMO crops other than that SOME GMO crops are modified to resist glyphosate killing them?
2. 90% of all foods in the supermarket and restaurants do not have glyphosate in them.
3. Monsanto does not own the patent to glyphosate anymore (expired in 2000, 16 years ago), so they did not put glyphosate into your groceries....if by some chance it is in your broccoli, it is there as a result of one of thousands of sources. And your non-GMO broccoli is just as likely to have been exposed to glyphosate while growing.

Can people not do 10 seconds of research anymore? Maybe the "Health Reporter" was referring to the fact that in 2015, 89% of corn, 94% of soybeans, and 89% of cotton produced in the US were genetically modified to be herbicide-tolerant. Therefore allowing products such as glyphosate to be used to kill weeds in the fields? I guess that would be a charitable interpretation of where they got their "90% of all foods in the supermarket and restaurants" claim? Source: http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-produc...s-in-the-us/recent-trends-in-ge-adoption.aspx

Then there is this regarding the claim that glyphosate has been linked EXPLICITLY to Alzheimer's, Dementia, and memory loss (I cribbed it from Wikipedia)..

"A 2012 meta-analysis of all epidemiological studies of exposure to glyphosate formulations found no correlation with any kind of cancer.[75] The 2013 systematic review by the German Institute for Risk Assessment of epidemiological studies of workers who use pesticides, exposed to glyphosate formulations found no significant risk, stating that "the available data is contradictory and far from being convincing".[10]:Volume 1, p64-66 However, a 2014 meta-analysis of the same studies found a correlation between occupational exposure to glyphosate formulations and increased risk of B cell lymphoma, the most common kind of non-Hodgkin lymphoma (NHL). Workers exposed to glyphosate were about twice as likely to get B cell lymphoma.[11] "

I know that statement is mostly linked to cancers, but I see no clear link to reputable research that shows Alzheimer's, Dementia, and memory loss links, especially at whatever concentrations would be found in the final product being consumed. Those studies were on people who were spraying this stuff on crops day in and day out. Not on people who ate some fruit and suddenly lost their memory.

So the claims by this anonymous "world's leading bio-geneticist" are suspect at best, and utterly fabricated at worst. I would not be surprised if the "Health Reporter" made most of this up for the drama it would cause and promotion it would see in the "Monsanto is the devil" circles.

 

[Sylvester017]

No offense to you. Seriously. Please separate my judgment and critical comments that follow to be directed at the blog/"Health Reporter" and not you. I agree that non-GMO is preferable whenever available and it is always better to be safe than sorry. But that being said.....that blurb you found is just utter crap.

1. Glyphosate is not inside ALL genetically engineered foods. Why would it be? It is a weed killer......what link does that have to GMO crops other than that SOME GMO crops are modified to resist glyphosate killing them?
2. 90% of all foods in the supermarket and restaurants do not have glyphosate in them.
3. Monsanto does not own the patent to glyphosate anymore (expired in 2000, 16 years ago), so they did not put glyphosate into your groceries....if by some chance it is in your broccoli, it is there as a result of one of thousands of sources. And your non-GMO broccoli is just as likely to have been exposed to glyphosate while growing.

Can people not do 10 seconds of research anymore? Maybe the "Health Reporter" was referring to the fact that in 2015, 89% of corn, 94% of soybeans, and 89% of cotton produced in the US were genetically modified to be herbicide-tolerant. Therefore allowing products such as glyphosate to be used to kill weeds in the fields? I guess that would be a charitable interpretation of where they got their "90% of all foods in the supermarket and restaurants" claim? Source: http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-produc...s-in-the-us/recent-trends-in-ge-adoption.aspx

Then there is this regarding the claim that glyphosate has been linked EXPLICITLY to Alzheimer's, Dementia, and memory loss (I cribbed it from Wikipedia)..

"A 2012 meta-analysis of all epidemiological studies of exposure to glyphosate formulations found no correlation with any kind of cancer.[75] The 2013 systematic review by the German Institute for Risk Assessment of epidemiological studies of workers who use pesticides, exposed to glyphosate formulations found no significant risk, stating that "the available data is contradictory and far from being convincing".[10]:Volume 1, p64-66 However, a 2014 meta-analysis of the same studies found a correlation between occupational exposure to glyphosate formulations and increased risk of B cell lymphoma, the most common kind of non-Hodgkin lymphoma (NHL). Workers exposed to glyphosate were about twice as likely to get B cell lymphoma.[11] "

I know that statement is mostly linked to cancers, but I see no clear link to reputable research that shows Alzheimer's, Dementia, and memory loss links, especially at whatever concentrations would be found in the final product being consumed. Those studies were on people who were spraying this stuff on crops day in and day out. Not on people who ate some fruit and suddenly lost their memory.

So the claims by this anonymous "world's leading bio-geneticist" are suspect at best, and utterly fabricated at worst. I would not be surprised if the "Health Reporter" made most of this up for the drama it would cause and promotion it would see in the "Monsanto is the devil" circles.

Well, this must be sort of like the scare about arsenic found in rice. We discovered that all rice will leech some arsenic from the soil naturally but in researching also found that the aromatic organic brown rices (texmati, basmati, jasmine, etc) had less arsenic leeching than other rice varieties and highest arsenic percentages were found in white rice after all the good parts of the rice grain were polished off. There's even some other foods grown that you will find will have trace amounts of mercury and lead in them naturally.

About GMOs - I reserve judgement either pro or con until all the evidence is gathered. There's still too many reports about its pros or cons and more and more consumers are demanding to know and are going non-GMO until the final verdicts are in. Something sparked the GMO controversy and usually there's good reason because after a considerable time it is still hotly debated - whether there are truly unknown health consequences or whether it's a disgust for Monsanto's (or DuPont's) monopoly in the agricultural industry. And all those conspiracy theories can make your head spin!

 

[Sylvester017]

@hyelaw
Re: Scratch & Peck organic - it is great stuff since it is made with wholesome seeds and ingredients without cooking or pellet processing. My only reason for not fermenting it is because I was reading that the natural B vitamin content changes properties if fermented so I chose not to do it since the B vitamins are one of the most important for chickens to get benefits from. That's why I took the next best thing I could do and add the cold brown rice to the Scratch & Peck layer feed so that the powdery fish meal and supplements that settle to the bottom of the feeder will adhere to the rice kernels as the chickens eat. Most of my breeds love the rice and that way the powdery contents get consumed. Some people who have tried the Scratch & Peck complained that a lot of waste was occurring with the powdery supplements settling in the feeder bottom and they didn't want to lose the B vitamin effectiveness by fermenting, so they stopped using Scratch & Peck. With everything there are pros and cons so I took the best step I could think of and use the organic aromatic brown rices as my solution to the Scratch & Peck powdery problem. As scratch for the chickens we don't use the dry corn - mine won't eat it anyway. Instead, we use 3-Grain whole organic kernels as scratch - Rye, Wheat, Oat whole kernels. Sometimes we feed them organic whole canned corn no salt when we can find it but they won't touch dried hard corn. My next experiment is to cook Quinoa and see if they like it - the seeds are so small they don't eat it so I'll try cooking or sprouting. Some of my hens like the whole organic Flax seeds. And they go nuts for sprouted seeds - another thing about sprouting is that clean sprouting kit seeds are best to use for sprouting to avoid contaminating the sprouts from other seed sources. I guess bacteria or mold is a problem in sprouting. I'm still learning so much stuff I should start documenting my references.