Organic vs. Regular chicken feed...input?

In my opinion the value of organic feed is essentially priceless. It's not just about nutrition, although organically grown food IS higher in nutritional value. One also has to consider the collateral damage to people and the environment of the increasingly high dosages of pesticides, herbicides and fungicides sprayed on conventional fields. By purchasing "conventional" products, you become complicit in that destruction, whether you deny it or not. Glyphosate, to give but one example, the active ingredient in Roundup, is carcinogenic and damaging to the reproductive system and the nervous system. That's just in humans, but one assumes it's equally damaging to other animals, and it's also recorded as toxic to "aquatic organisms" (http://www.pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC33138). If you actually bother to READ about the ingredients in ANY of these pesticides, herbicides, or fungicides--instead of just taking the chemical companies' word that it's "safe," and wasting your time ranting about the high prices of organic products, or bashing organic consumers as elitist--you'll find a sinister rainbow different but similar horrors. Genetically modified crops, which includes most of the corn and soy grown chemically in America today, including that going into your "conventional" chicken feed, carries a whole further slew of freakishness and still only partially known dangers, since our government bent over for Monsanto, Dupont, and Friends and never required any of it to be third-party-verified for safety, but anyone who's paying attention knows enough to avoid eating it. Which is why somewhere over 90% of Americans want the government to require mandatory labeling by law of any foods containing genetically engineered ingredients (http://gefoodlabels.org/gmo-labeling/polls-on-gmo-labeling/).

As to the high prices, it's unfortunate, but it has nothing to do with the real costs. chemical farming has MUCH higher overhead costs in inputs that organic farming, and the yields are not necessarily better, especially not in net profits. Also, the chemical growing of many crops (eg corn, soy, wheat) is subsidized by the US goverment, making it cheaper, whilst organic growing of the same crops is not (because organic farming can actually make a profit on its own without gov money). The finally coup de grace against chemical farming comes when one realizes that the costs in the damages that it wreaks on the environment and on human health are not factored into the storefront pricetag.

I feed organic feed to my flock, but it only makes up an estimated 40% or so of their feed--the rest is scraps or homegrown feed components. This approach seems a far more sensible and responsible way to reduce feeding costs than buying conventional feed.

I refuse to be complicit in the destruction of the land. And I know that looking the other way won't fix squat.
 
I usually pay between $13 and $15 for a 50 pound bag of non organic. I have actually never seen organic feed in my area....I have never asked either
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I feed Purina Layer and let them free-range ..when I can and it is safe to do so ...about an hour most evenings.
 
Name of thread says it all...
Leaning toward organic, but totally undecided at this point. They are currently on organic starter.
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I believe organic feed is better, not only because I am anti GMO and oppose the idea that the seed a living thing can be patented, not only because organic crops have been shown to have a higher nutritional value. Not only because some organic feeds are not based on massive amounts of corn and soy.... ( Organic feeds tend to have a greater diversity of ingredients! Way I see it diversity is good, or scientists will say they know all their is to know about nutrition)... I say ya right...
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The primary reason for feeding organic or local "alternative" feed is a political one. (Not conservative or liberal, as plenty of folks from both ends of the spectrum come together on this on..)

The only vote that really counts is the one you make when you open your pocket book.. The all mighty dollar... So vote for multi national industrialists, or vote for the small guy trying to scratch out a living farming... (Yes, we have plenty on this forum that are involved in the industrial ag arena, but fewer and fewer are doing well, as the profits get concentrated in the hands of the big multi national companies...)

So vote your mind with your pocket book... With chicken feed and with everything you buy.... Buy local, from the small guy as much as you can!!
 
I feed organic also, and I ditto what "Sky the chicken man" has posted here.
To add to the downside of gmo'd foods........I read a study in which they fed gmo'd feed to rats and by their 3rd generation...they had become sterile!! ( and many other health issues too).
Don't want my family or pets to have this nasty gmo food stuffs! Its well worth the little extra $$$ for the organic feed for us and for our chickens!!! IMO......
~Beulah
 
I pay $28 for 50# organic. We are fortunate to have a local farm mill the feed and we can purchase right from them. They are Certified as are any suppliers they use.
 
To add to the downside of gmo'd foods........I read a study in which they fed gmo'd feed to rats and by their 3rd generation...they had become sterile!! ( and many other health issues too).
Don't want my family or pets to have this nasty gmo food stuffs! Its well worth the little extra $$$ for the organic feed for us and for our chickens!!! IMO......
~Beulah

Speaking of which, I just recalled hearing about a news story from Denmark about a hog farmer there. You can read about the case in depth here: http://gmwatch.org/latest-listing/1-news-items/13882

Many observational anecdotes exist of animals of all kinds avoiding eating GM products when given a choice--e.g., mice gnawing into sacks and eating ordinary corn without touching the GE corn right next to it, etc., etc. It would seem the animals already know instinctively what many humans haven't figured out...
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What are the same toxins doing to THEIR bodies?

This is indeed scary stuff. Why mess with it all? Stop growing it, stop buying it, stop eating it... Who cares if you have to pay a little more, or even a lot more? What you eat affects everything, your entire state of health and well-being and your very life expectancy. I always figured that you are what you eat, so if you aren't going to spend money on good food then what the heck's the point of having money at all? If that's not a priority for you, then what is? I'd live in a rotten shack and wear rags before I'd eat toxic food on a regular basis. But most of my compatriots seem to care more about getting a bigger TV or an extra car than eating real food. Americans spend a smaller relative portion of their income on food than just about any other country in the world. Why are people of such a (relatively) wealthy nation so determined to buy and eat cheap crap and be sick and malnourished as a result? Why? It truly baffles me...
 
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Organic and GMO free for both our chickens and ourselves. We are lucky enough to have local access to Scratch and Peck Feed, the first Non GMO Verified feed in America.
We are what our animals eat....really think about that.
 
i have been wanting to go organic.i just picked up a price sheet.the thing is my dh is the one that spotted the samples of organic feed and price sheet.and than after looking at the prices he said maybe we need to stick to just their purina layer.organic soy-free layer is 26.50 for a 50 lb.bag. and organic scratch is 25.00 for 50lb.
i only have 7 chickens so bag of feed last quite awhile.i feel they are worth it.but trying to convince my dh is a different matter.
 
Organic and GMO free for both our chickens and ourselves. We are lucky enough to have local access to Scratch and Peck Feed, the first Non GMO Verified feed in America.
We are what our animals eat....really think about that.

I feed Scratch & Peck too. It got rave reviews from others in my poultry club.
 

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