Oriental Gamefowl Thread!

[gallorojo]

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Understood

I sure have learned this the hard way in the case of my IDEAL Orloffs. I wound up with a very tiny pullet with a crooked beak and with a cockerel whose coloring is hardly spangled and who himself is also small for an Orloff. Then again, they are hatchery stock, too.

Not saying hatchery stock is all bad there. I'm saying you have to understand that you need lot of birds hatched to have any hope of getting good ones, so, if you get baby chicks from anyone, breeder or hatchery, some will be better than others. If you only get 2, or 6 , or whatever, as chicks, it's not fair really to blame the hatchery or the breeder if you don't like some. The sample size is too small to judge. You ever notice how a lot of breeders won't sell chicks or hatching eggs? Many reasons for that, but, one is that they have to observe the chicks to tell which will be their own replacements, which are good enough to sell, and which become stew...Breeders should produce a much higher percentage of good chicks, but, nobody ever gets 100% great ones. If you buy adults, you at least can tell what you are getting. If you buy chicks, you need to buy A LOT to have a good chance of getting some good ones.

 

[Gresh]

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That's an excellent stag, GG. I'm guessing Spangled? Can't tell due to my amateur-ness. I think someone told me that a spangled bird with a lot of white is more appropriately called a mottled bird.

Either way, I'm too amateur to tell the difference. All I know is that your stag is very handsome.

 

[Gresh]

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Understood

I sure have learned this the hard way in the case of my IDEAL Orloffs. I wound up with a very tiny pullet with a crooked beak and with a cockerel whose coloring is hardly spangled and who himself is also small for an Orloff. Then again, they are hatchery stock, too.

Not saying hatchery stock is all bad there. I'm saying you have to understand that you need lot of birds hatched to have any hope of getting good ones, so, if you get baby chicks from anyone, breeder or hatchery, some will be better than others. If you only get 2, or 6 , or whatever, as chicks, it's not fair really to blame the hatchery or the breeder if you don't like some. The sample size is too small to judge. You ever notice how a lot of breeders won't sell chicks or hatching eggs? Many reasons for that, but, one is that they have to observe the chicks to tell which will be their own replacements, which are good enough to sell, and which become stew...Breeders should produce a much higher percentage of good chicks, but, nobody ever gets 100% great ones. If you buy adults, you at least can tell what you are getting. If you buy chicks, you need to buy A LOT to have a good chance of getting some good ones.

Yeah, I guess I've been wrong in wanting to find breeders who sell hatching eggs/chicks. At one time I thought I could just get three or four and get off to a good start, but then I thought that if I got like 25-30 chicks from a breeder, than maybe I could cull like crazy and wind up with something close to the standard. However, I've always wanted to find someone who sold adult birds so I could get something good immediately without culling.

Honestly, a main reason as to why I've wanted chicks in the past is because adults are so expensive. The cock I'm getting in December is affordable, but most breeders don't seem to sell their birds for $40. The killer for me is actually the shipping. I get $150 a year (75 in June and 75 at Christmas) so it already takes while to save up the average amount asked for a pair. Then I have to save probably $75 more just for shipping.

Don't know about other people, but I'm not moneybags. Of course, I'm also a teenager, and don't have a job yet, so I obviously do not have a lot of money

 

[D3invertebrates]

Nice birds yall got! I really wanna get a few oriental type birds, I recently bought 17 hatching thai eggs but none of them hatched, pretty disappointed about that one. Right now I plan on getting some from ideal but theres gonna be a wait on that one. If anyone in the SE Texas area has any to sell/trade I definitely would be interested in hearing from you.

 

[Gresh]

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Try Josh44. He lives in San Antonio. Gallo also does (not to be confused with Gallorojo, who lives in Pennsylvania). I forget the numbers that follow Gallo's name...I think the first one is a four.

 

[Gresh]

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His full BYC name is gallo4319.

 

[josh44]

Thanks Gresh

Hows the search for orientals coming along ?


Pm me if u can thanks

 

[GotGame]

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That's an excellent stag, GG. I'm guessing Spangled? Can't tell due to my amateur-ness. I think someone told me that a spangled bird with a lot of white is more appropriately called a mottled bird.

Either way, I'm too amateur to tell the difference. All I know is that your stag is very handsome.

Mottleing is a white tip on black feathers, no other colors. A spangled bird has red feathering, but at the end of the feather, a black bar, which ends in a white feather tip. This stag is a blue spangled, from blue being added to a spangled.

 

[Gresh]

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That's an excellent stag, GG. I'm guessing Spangled? Can't tell due to my amateur-ness. I think someone told me that a spangled bird with a lot of white is more appropriately called a mottled bird.

Either way, I'm too amateur to tell the difference. All I know is that your stag is very handsome.

Mottleing is a white tip on black feathers, no other colors. A spangled bird has red feathering, but at the end of the feather, a black bar, which ends in a white feather tip. This stag is a blue spangled, from blue being added to a spangled.

Thanks for the color info--I've been wondering what is different between the two.

 

[gallo4319]

My computer collapsed is a cheap ACER laptop
And my phone is a window 7(HTC) it was uploading pictures b4, the system updated few days ago now the browser to upload pictures doesn't work
all this high Tec good for nothing. ('

',%20'');
I got a beautiful black aseel that it has been blended to one of my previous crosses
I when to get it this morning from a friend who is working on long tails x orientals.
He using some Melville aseel like the rooster on the second pictures.