Orpington Colour Combinations

[OnlyOrps]

Wow those are some beautiful crosses! I might keep a 'mutt pen' just for kicks. Thanks for sharing!

 

[Spoiled Birds]

Hello. I'm having a very hard time finding an answer to my question.
Which is...
What would I get from my Splash Orpington Rooster over my Buff Orpington Hens?
I don't need all chromosomes and such, that makes my head hurt. LOL
Anyway I know the Splash, Blue & Black results, just not the Buff.

These are my Orpington Roosters. I have a single Splash Orppington hen and 6 Buff hens.

Here's the 4 chicks I got from my 1st hatch and made my think one of my other roosters in my other
pen got lucky when the girls were escaping their pen.


girl boy

girl boy

and also I'm curious on how to Breed for Lavender Orpingtons & Chocolate too.
I hope somebody can give me a "Orpington Breeding for Dummies" answers.
Thanks

 

[CotonDog]

Hi there Spoiled Birds!
I'm new to this forum and sadly never had any of my own chickens. I'm in school in the city with only a small dog to keep me company and am missing farm life a bit.
So, I have been doing lots of research online (and following all the forums

). There is a forum for the United Orpington Club in the UK where someone has posted the following information. Not sure if it's accurate at all. Also if you go to the link you can find someone has made (or posted) some drawings for those that might have trouble with the progeny percentages.

Unfortunately, they don't seem to be any information about making colours appear without those colours in the mix. So doesn't seem to show how what you hatched could have been bred. Being a researcher PT (not for chickens, for bugs!) I would love to go through the literature (if I could find any, haven't looked much thought) on this, but won't have time until spring!

Also have some of my own input below.

Good luck with the chickens!

Sorry this is a long post!


"Common Genetic Combinations expected offspring out of 100

Blue Gene (Incomplete Dominance)
Blue x Blue= 25 splash 50 blue 25 Black
Black x Blue= 50 Black 50 Blue
Splash x Blue= 50 Splash 50 Blue
Splash x Black= 100 Blue

Lavender/ Self Blue (Recessive)
Lav x Black= 100 Black split to Lav
Black Split x Black Spit= 25 Lav 50 Black Split 25 Black
Black Split x Lav = 50 Black split 50 Lav


Sex Linked Genes Males listed first females second, out of 100 for each gender

Barred ( Sex Linked Dominant)
Barred x Barred= 100 Barred males 100 Barred females
Barred x Black = 100 Barred split (Barring shown) Males 100 Barred Females
Black x Barred= 100 Barred split males 100 Black females
Barred split x Barred= 50 Barred split males 50 Barred males 50 Barred males 50 Black females
Barred split x Black= 50 Black males 50 Barred males 50 Barred females 50 Black females

Chocolate (Sex Linked Recessive)
Choc x Choc = 100 Choc males 100 Choc females
Choc x Black = 100 Choc split (Black showing) males 100 Choc females
Choc split x Choc= 50 Choc males 50 Choc split males 50 Choc females 50 Black females
Choc split x Black= 50 Choc split males 50 Black males 50 Choc females 50 Black females
Black x Choc = 100 Choc split males 100 Black females"

Read more: http://orpingtonclub.proboards.com/thread/165/color-genetics?page=1#ixzz41LScFJnb



My own two cents after reading this more complex post (again accuracy I'm not sure about as I am a little unclear on what most of the genes do so might not be the only way to get one, sure is simple): "https://www.backyardchickens.com/a/genetics-an-attempt-at-simplifying-the-complex"

To get lavender you need a lavender (recessive dilution of black) gene. Easy enough if you have a lavender hen as they for sure will have two. Only solves 1/2 the battle as you still need another lavender dilution to not get blue.

You can test cross a lavender with a black chicken (who you are unsure if it contains a lavender gene) to determine if it does (it for sure does if you get lavender, may or may not if you don't).

Essentially this is the idea with the chickens for those two gene locus

Lavender Chicken (2 Black genes) & (2 Lavender genes)
+
Black Chicken (2 Black genes) & (Not Lavender & ????)

Then since the only way to get a lavender ever is to get
Lavender Chicken (2 Black) & (2 Lavender)
so if you do get a lavender out of this test cross you would know that the Black Chicken is (2 Black genes) x (Not lavender and lavender)

**preferably if you knew you had an extended black chicken (ie solid black chicken that chicken ALWAYS threw black unless mixed with a lavender or blue gene)**

Bit confusing and I'm not sure if gene testing is available for chickens. If it is might be cheaper to do that and put it into this calculator ( http://kippenjungle.nl/kruising.html ). It's not in English though.

Somehow this got longer! I must really be missing farm life!
Hope this helps!

 

[Steven Stitcher]

Your best bet is getting a blue or black rooster. You already have some blue and black hens, so from there you can take either to either blue or black rooster, and get BBS Orpingtons. Here's what I'm talking about. . .

BBS stands for Blue Black Splash. It goes like this:

Black x Blue = 50% blue, 50 % black
Blue x Blue = 25% black, 50% blue, 25% splash
Black x Black = 100% black

They're all recognizable colors too, unlike crossing a blue or black to a buff.

What about a buff Orpington and a chocolate Orpington mix

 

[Steven Stitcher]

Your best bet is getting a blue or black rooster. You already have some blue and black hens, so from there you can take either to either blue or black rooster, and get BBS Orpingtons. Here's what I'm talking about. . .

BBS stands for Blue Black Splash. It goes like this:

Black x Blue = 50% blue, 50 % black
Blue x Blue = 25% black, 50% blue, 25% splash
Black x Black = 100% black

They're all recognizable colors too, unlike crossing a blue or black to a buff.

What would i get if i crossed a buff Orpington rooster with chocolate Orpington hen