Thank you! I greatly appreciate all the answers! I've been reading your blog on genetics and definitely a lot to learn and take in, but it's been great to give me some ideas and some more understanding!
I will definitely be remembering it! My problem is telling the down apart in the chicks from a double barred male and a single barred female, I know the males are lighter, and I think something to do with a spot on the heads, but I have not yet figured that out
You're way above your head for a newbie, those patterns are difficult even for the more seasoned breeder. I'm assuming your Buff Columbian is Blue Buff Columbian. I made Chocolate Columbian this year on accident but now that I figured out the genetics, i can roll with them. Buff Cuckoo and not Lemon Cuckoo is easy Crele x Buff. The Splash laced red and blue laced red will be hard, you have to figure out how to replace the gold with red while turning the lacing BBS....very difficult to do.I will definitely be remembering it! My problem is telling the down apart in the chicks from a double barred male and a single barred female, I know the males are lighter, and I think something to do with a spot on the heads, but I have not yet figured that out
Okay first of all! I'm thinking I'm already in love with that color and I don't even know what that looks like fully! But the second my crele and my golden laced at of age (mainly my crele as I don't have one yet, but planning to have and hatch some this summer) i did just Google search a candy corn chicken, and found 2 patterns i was sure would be it, but loved both! There are already like 5 or 6 color varieties i want to breed onto the orpington (ie. Buff Cuckoo, Chocolate Mottled, Splash laced red, Blue Laced Red, Columbian, buff Columbian, Coronation buff, and more) problem is I'm not 100% sure how or where to start with a few of these, I kinda have some ideas, but don't yet have a concrete plan for any of them.
I would love to talk to you more about breeding and different types!!
Well that's comforting regarding the down of the chicks, at least I don't need to feel bad about not getting it figured out already
Lemon cuckoo is the layman's term for buff cuckoo. Idk why Orpington breeders call it lemon, but they do.
Well that's comforting regarding the down of the chicks, at least I don't need to feel bad about not getting it figured out already
I was wanting to do both Columbian (buff with black) and then the blue buff Columbian, I like the buff but love the two tones on a buff.
Do you have pictures of your chocolate Columbian, I'm imagining it and would love to see it!!
Buff cuckoo is just as simple as crele over buff? Is lemon the dilution of the red? I was not going to try for lemon cuckoo until I had some solid lemon orpingtons.
Yeah I haven't quite figured out how I would even attempt for the Blue/Splash Laced Red, but that might a slightly later project once I have more experiments and experience under my belt
Lemon is a diluted Buff....pale yellow not orange. Big differenceLemon cuckoo is the layman's term for buff cuckoo. Idk why Orpington breeders call it lemon, but they do.
Buff is the dilution of red. Buff cuckoo is barring plus buff, and since crele is closer to buff than buff barred it's better for that cross, but I wouldn't call it simple. It still takes a few generations to get good buff color back.
Show me a picture? All I've seen are lemon cuckoo which are definitely buff cuckoo because a lemon with barring would be practically white. "Lemon cuckoo" are lighter than buff because that's what barring does. I've hatched regular BLACK cuckoo that were almost white because barring can lighten up the "dark" bars that much. These "butterscotch" Cochins might be what buff plus lemon would look like (though it could be some other unknown dilution that is even lighter than ig) but I have never seen an Orpington that was a solid color lighter than buff. So I am going to assume it doesn't exist.
, it's nothing more than a diluted red. Again....same thing with Pocelain....Jubilee x Lavender Mottled. The Lavender dilutes mahogany to pale yellow, the black to Lavender, and the Mottled gene helps to keep the tips white.
Ok so lemon is lavender buff then?I wish I could but this thing won't let me attach pics. But here we go....is Isabel Cuckoo Buff and Lavender in color or is it pale yellow and Lavender in color? It's pale yellow because Lavender dilutes the red in the Crele to yellow and dilutes the black in the Crele to Lavender. There is no lemon gene
