Our Family Tree

[MuckyPuppy]

So far on the "documented" side I it seems that I may have two relatives that witnessed/signed the Magna Carta. One is a direct relative and the other signer is an uncle who's nephew (I think he's the direct line but have to go through each step when I'm feeling better to confirm) inherited the title. From what I can tell the nephew was also there but didn't sign.

I just love the footsteps in history. From signers to soldiers to farmers, They were all so very important.

 

[EweSheep]

The grandfather in question had four generations of same name.....

My uncle, Wm H Carlson (b. 1942), his father (my grandfather) was Wm H Carlson (1917), then his father was also Wm H Carlson (1870) and his father, emigrated from Sweden, was also Wm H Carlson but something tells me that his name could have been Wilhelm H Karlsson or something related. Not sure if Sweden and Denmark are the same thing to the people who were writing the documents down.

That was the frustrating part. With eight silbings, how can one missed it a mile away? The Wm H Carlson (1870) was the most problematic ancestor I've had!

Got plenty of Rev War on my hubby's mother's side...I mean loaded. Distant cousin of Meriwether Lewis (Lewis and Clark expedition), a Carne de Aide for Gen Washington (also stole a white horse FOR Gen Washington), several lines to Scottsh royality and Robert the Bruce.

Didn't the Pilgrims ever did genealogy? Many times the wives would end up like "Wife of Mr..............." or "Daughter of Mr..........." and rarely they ever tell the first names of ladies or mothers or wives. Haven't had one that related to the Salem Witchcrafts.....

 

[The Howards]

The Howards,

I'm

that you break through your wall soon.

Thanks, you and me both.... been staring at that darn wall for 2 years now.

 

[MuckyPuppy]

EweSheep, We might/may/could be very, very, very distantly related. I am related to William "The Lion" of Scotland through his "natural" daughter Isabella/Isabel of Scotland. She was married first to Robert De Brus IV (I don't think that they had any children) and when he died she married Robert de Ros of the Magna Carta (my line).


Edited: Also related to Joan Beaufort through both Sir Thomas Lumley and his wife Elizabeth Plantagenet "natural" daughter of Edward IV of England.

 

[oldrooster]

Ewe sheep on behalf of my cousin, thanks for the white horse!

 

[MuckyPuppy]

The Howards,

That is a very long time to be staring at a wall and it must be very frustrating. I have a few walls that I'm ignoring for right now as I work on the easier parts of the tree but eventually I'll have to face them.

 

[MuckyPuppy]

Just as a update to the others doing research, while I was doing my searching yesterday I came across a person that had stated (on a genealogy website to other members) that the LDS had records (on the family I was researching) that show the line back to 946 AD. I don't know how true this is yet but thought I would share for those stuck behind a wall.

 

[EweSheep]

People of non royality lines don't go back too far because it gets very muddy and vague in getting the right ancestor. There are a lot more peasants than royal folks and it seems like every one of us got royal lines LOL! We have to be very careful in choosing ancestors that goes into the 1700's when book records are not as common today.

 

[MuckyPuppy]

Yep, two of my royal lines are through "natural" daughters aka illegitimate daughters. My husband's family also goes through Elizabeth and that is just one of Edward's acknowledged natural" children and doesn't include his legitimate ones.

 

[mom'sfolly]

Ewesheep, I feel your pain with the names being the same...In my family they favored the male names of Peter, Frederick and one other, and the female names of Sarah, Elizabeth, Anne and Mary. Big family, lots of people with the same first names, and they liked marrying their cousins. So you get multiple generations of Peter Branstetters marrying Sarahs, Elizabeths or Anne Branstetters.

I'm not sure what this says about that branch of the family...too many people with the same last name? Unimaginative at looking for a mate? Wanted a girl just like mom, right down to exactly the same name? I'm just surprised that non of them seem to have three eyes.

With the Scandanavian names, you might want to keep in mind that first sons were named for their paternal grandfathers, and then took their father's first name for a last names....Anders Jansen's first born son would be Jan Anderson, and his firstborn grandson would be again Anders Jansen. Same names, offset by one generation.