Panting From Pain / Ever dealt w/serious injuries?

[casportpony]

Generic injectable Baytril made in Mexico.

-Kathy

 

[theoldchick]

Baytril and many other antibiotics and medications *can* be purchased without a prescription *very* easily. So far I've found:

• Enrofloxacin (Baytril)
• Clavamox/Augmentin
• Amoxicillin
• Cipro
• Cephalexin
• Metronidazole
• Doxycycline
• Ampicillin
• Sulfamethoxazole/Trimethoprim
• Predisolone
• Fluconazole

-Kathy

Then you better tell her how.

 

[casportpony]

Then you better tell her how.

It's easy, just google the drug you want for fish or birds.

Metronidazole for fish finds this
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...l=hp...0l5.0.0.0.6830...........0.e4gG_RTo1LI

Enfloxil is generic Baytril and an image search finds this:
https://www.google.com/search?q=enf...6oHwCA&sqi=2&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1387&bih=833

Or search for the drug on ebay. Need more examples, just let me know!

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

This link is about pain management:
http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/08_pain_management.pdf

This is dosing info:
http://avianmedicine.net/content/uploads/2013/03/09_therapeutic_agents.pdf

They're both from this book set:
http://avianmedicine.net/publication_cat/clinical-avian-medicine/

-Kathy

 

[casportpony]

Cipro
http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/inde.../ciprofloxacin-fish-flox-fish-antibiotic.html

Cehpalexin
http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-antibiotics/cephalexin-keflex-fish-antibiotics.html

Enrofloxacin
http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-antibiotics/fish-enro-enrofloxacin.html

Ampicillin
http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/inde...s/ampicillin-fish-cillin-fish-antibiotic.html

Metronidazole
http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/inde...metronidazole-fish-zole-fish-antibiotics.html

Amoxicillin
http://www.fishmoxfishflex.com/index.php/fish-antibiotics/amoxicillin-fish-antibiotics.html

Nystatin
https://www.google.com/search?sourc...0i30j0i30.0.0.0.16115...........0.YAmam_idgBk

Fluconazole
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trk...uconazole&_nkw=fluconazole&_sacat=0&_from=R40

-Kathy

 

[whiteybird]

thanks everyone!


Kathy, since you were the one who taught me how to tube feed, have you ever had a bird not start eating on her own after a month of tubing?

Do both of you think I should put her on pain meds?

ps. Feisty's not limping like she was when I first posted this...back to favoring her good leg but will temporarily put her full weight on the bad one (scratches her face with her good leg, stands on bad one). She was inside in her box all day yesterday, while we went fishing, and has been inside all day today so far. Haven't fed her yet, but crop is practically empty.

 

[casportpony]

thanks everyone!


Kathy, since you were the one who taught me how to tube feed, have you ever had a bird not start eating on her own after a month of tubing?

Do both of you think I should put her on pain meds?

ps. Feisty's not limping like she was when I first posted this...back to favoring her good leg but will temporarily put her full weight on the bad one (scratches her face with her good leg, stands on bad one). She was inside in her box all day yesterday, while we went fishing, and has been inside all day today so far. Haven't fed her yet, but crop is practically empty.

I had one that I raised on the tube and he had to be weaned off it, lol, but he eventually got the hang of it. For a bird to not eat after a month makes me think that there's still something going on. As for pain meds I've only used them once for a duck with bumblefoot that I took to the vet, she prescribed Tramadol. Metacam (Meloxicam) is also used in poultry, I think. So unless I knew why she wasn't eating on her own I probably wouldn't give her any pain meds just in case there was something going on with her kidneys and/or liver. You might want to increase the amount of fluids you're giving her and see if that helps.

-Kathy

 

[Kyzmette]

This is just in response to your original question, since I had some personal experience with that and it struck a chord.

I've had several of my flock attacked by the neighbor's dog. While nursing them back to health, I remember I was thinking it reminded me of an episode of House. There was one episode where a woman was so badly burned she was kept in an induced coma. Whenever they took her out of the coma, she couldn't speak, but she would open her mouth and stare wide-eyed, and a family member asked what she was doing... the doctor replied "I think she's screaming." That's what it reminded me of with my chickies. I could tell when they were in the most pain because they would sit with their beaks open, entirely still. As they got better, they closed their beaks more. When I would dose them with some aspirin, they also seemed to relax a little and allowed their beaks to close intermittently.

So yes, my personal belief is that a sign that a chicken is in pain is the wide-open beak.

 

[Shabana]

Urgh I wish we could buy some stuff over the counter here in the UK. I did recently order flubenvet wormer and it made it through to me but generally it's a vet or nothing.
Lots of great info Kathy - my vets very good and generally I can say what's happened, what they need (thanks to you guys) and she will let me have some sometimes without seeing the hen so it could be worse

 

[casportpony]

I haven't noticed the beak thing in any of mine that have had serious injuries... not saying it's not a sign of pain, just that i didn't notice it in any of my that had things like open fractures, dislocations or wounds from predators.

-Kathy