Partridge Silkies - Nothing else

[Sonoran Silkies]

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I've seen that on more than one splash...

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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There is no specific number of non-silkied feathers or of hard feathers. They are NOT the same thing. Hard feathers have a stiff shaft that does not easily bend, game breeds, RIR, leghorns, minorca have hard feathers. Genetically it is Ha/Ha, an incompletely dominant gene. Generally you want as few as possible: you want a soft, rounded tail, not one with pronounced stiff sickles or coverts. Yes, there is a section on general disqualifications and defects as well as those that are breed or variety specific.

Newer breeders or exhibitors make a much bigger deal out of things that those who've been around a long time don't get all upset about. Do we want heavily feathered toes? Of course, but we realize that type is more important.

 

[ChickNmamma]

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There is no specific number of non-silkied feathers or of hard feathers. They are NOT the same thing. Hard feathers have a stiff shaft that does not easily bend, game breeds, RIR, leghorns, minorca have hard feathers. Genetically it is Ha/Ha, an incompletely dominant gene. Generally you want as few as possible: you want a soft, rounded tail, not one with pronounced stiff sickles or coverts. Yes, there is a section on general disqualifications and defects as well as those that are breed or variety specific.

Newer breeders or exhibitors make a much bigger deal out of things that those who've been around a long time don't get all upset about. Do we want heavily feathered toes? Of course, but we realize that type is more important.
Thank you Sonoran Silkies, I always appreciate your input.

Ah - so "hard feathers" are the ones that stick out straight and are not found on all birds? They are genetically different from the stiff flight feathers usually found in the tail sections and wings of the birds?

Since the only ones I see on that boy are on the wing feathers, then he is fine? His tail feathers are nicely rounded, but there are more non-silkied feathers than I have seen on some.

Would it be accurate to say that the boys get more non-silkied feathers in their tails than the girls do?

 

[Quechicks]

I went back and looked at the drop downs for xtended black and dominant white, and you are right.  Wildtype alleles (denoted by a +) are listed first.  After that the E alleles are more or less listed in descending order of dominance after the e+ pairs:  All the possibilities of E, then of E^R, then of E^Wh, then e+ then e^b, and each of the possibilities are also in descending order of dominance:  E/E, E/E^R, E/E^Wh, E/e+, E/e^b.  I don't know why dominant white is not also listed in order of dominance, which is I^S > I > I^D > i+.  I know smokey has some weird dominance issues, but then so does wheaten.  There are other genes with multiple alleles, but they (the extra alleles) are uncommon and not listed in the calculator.

Still here....still following...not....but I try....I started studying herboristry and I will try to catch ip with genetics in my spare times....

Meanwhile, my chicks hatched wednesday....there is a little mystery....maybe you can tell me if I got a new partridge? But there is no strippes....is it possible even so? Otherwise Iguess it is a buff. I will have to add the topic. Ho god.. Another one with probably an 100 pages to read

 

[chickeneer45]

Is this chick partidge?

 

[BuckNBark Farm]

Hello- sorry if this is a double post- but I don't think I got it on here the first try. About 2 months ago, I posted pics of a couple of chicks that might have been Blue Partridge. They were born chipmunk patterned. They are out of a white roo, and a blue splash hen. When I posted it- someone said that my "blue partridge" chicks were probably blue. I'm thinking they are blue partridge. I know that getting a chance blue partridge won't give me a perfect pattern, but how are they? Does anyone have a pic of a perfect example of a BP hen and roo? I can search for that, I suppose. It won't hurt my feelings if they are bad examples (well, maybe a little disappointed ) The male is gangly and not photogenic. He IS however, very testosterony! He crowed the first time today in a Barry White voice- and has a big comb, compared to any of my others at that age! Thanks!

 

[BuckNBark Farm]

Hello- sorry if this is a double post- but I don't think I got it on here the first try. About 2 months ago, I posted pics of a couple of chicks that might have been Blue Partridge. They were born chipmunk patterned. They are out of a white roo, and a blue splash hen. When I posted it- someone said that my "blue partridge" chicks were probably blue. I'm thinking they are blue partridge. I know that getting a chance blue partridge won't give me a perfect pattern, but how are they? Does anyone have a pic of a perfect example of a BP hen and roo? I can search for that, I suppose. It won't hurt my feelings if they are bad examples (well, maybe a little disappointed ) The male is gangly and not photogenic. He IS however, very testosterony! He crowed the first time today in a Barry White voice- and has a big comb, compared to any of my others at that age! Thanks!

3 months old

 

[Fur N Feathers]

Still here....still following...not....but I try....I started studying herboristry and I will try to catch ip with genetics in my spare times....

Meanwhile, my chicks hatched wednesday....there is a little mystery....maybe you can tell me if I got a new partridge? But there is no strippes....is it possible even so? Otherwise Iguess it is a buff. I will have to add the topic. Ho god.. Another one with probably an 100 pages to read

I do think this one will be a partridge color. I have had two like this that are partridge (without the chipmunk stripes).

Is this chick partidge?

Not sure - the lighting seems to be giving it a bit of an orange glow. Might be a silver partridge, or even a porcelain color.

3 months old

They both look like blue partridge to me. Very cute for 3 month olds too! Maybe the blue from Mom and the partridge hidden under the white?

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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There is no specific number of non-silkied feathers or of hard feathers. They are NOT the same thing. Hard feathers have a stiff shaft that does not easily bend, game breeds, RIR, leghorns, minorca have hard feathers. Genetically it is Ha/Ha, an incompletely dominant gene. Generally you want as few as possible: you want a soft, rounded tail, not one with pronounced stiff sickles or coverts. Yes, there is a section on general disqualifications and defects as well as those that are breed or variety specific.

Newer breeders or exhibitors make a much bigger deal out of things that those who've been around a long time don't get all upset about. Do we want heavily feathered toes? Of course, but we realize that type is more important.
Thank you Sonoran Silkies, I always appreciate your input.

Ah - so "hard feathers" are the ones that stick out straight and are not found on all birds? They are genetically different from the stiff flight feathers usually found in the tail sections and wings of the birds?

Since the only ones I see on that boy are on the wing feathers, then he is fine? His tail feathers are nicely rounded, but there are more non-silkied feathers than I have seen on some.

Would it be accurate to say that the boys get more non-silkied feathers in their tails than the girls do?

No, the stiff feather are hard, regardless of whether they are silkied or not. Ideally you want soft (ha+/ha+) AND silkied (h/h)

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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Yes, looks partridge. Not all partridge have stripes