Peafowl 201: Further Genetics- Colors, Patterns, and More

[Peafowlssssssss]

Yes, Its possible for the male to be split to white eye without showing any white eye in his train.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

And the silver pied from the BronzeXOpal white eye pen.



Here are the parents.



But I can't figure out how I got a silver pied out of the Bronze male and he nor the Bronze female have ever shown white feathers anywhere on them.

I keep asking if they can hide the genes but no one seems to know the answer on all the forums and FB pages I am on.

Are you referring to these hens as opals? Do you have more images of them? They look more like peach here but it could be just the sun.

I got three silver pied chicks from a pair which only the male showing one tiny white feather in his wing with white throat patch on his neck, he is split white and white eye, and the hen doesn't have any white and she is white eye.

 

[WestKnollAmy]

Yes, they are Opals. They came from the Loudens. I do have more photos as it is probably the photo here making them look "off" to you. I have a Peach hen and these are nothing like her coloring. These 2 girls are smokey blue......







I need to take photos on a cloudy day instead of the bright sun with this new camera to help show them more accurately.

 

[WestKnollAmy]

My Bronze shows no white on him at all. I was very surprised to see his oldest daughter from the Bronze hen showing some white feathers this year. Neither the mother nor father have a throat latch. It just has really thrown me.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Yes, they are opals, it was just the sun, since the opal hens were from the louden farms i will not be surprised if they will produce silver chicks, don't they wrote on their site that there opal hens gave them silver chicks before? That's if i'm remembering correctly.

Any bird could be split white or white eye without showing any white feathers, but there chicks later could should some white if they got the white gene from there parents.

 

[WestKnollAmy]

Thanks! I have posted all over the place about the offspring and no one seems to be able to answer. I thought if they carried WE they would show white feathers. I have read a lot but am still learning and this threw me.
I do not mind getting the silver pieds. That is specifically what I breed for but getting it from the Bronze that showed no white feathers and the Opals, even though they have white throat latches, was a surprise. But a good one.

 

[Peafowlssssssss]

Most of my split white eye birds don't have any white on them, if i didn't know which birds they come from i will not be able to tell them apart until they breed with white eye birds.

 

[WestKnollAmy]

Thank you!
I never knew that but have added it to my notes. Really interesting. I keep trying to learn!

 

[barkerg]

" [COLOR=333333]In white-eye mutations, the eye of the train feathers on the male (not the eyeballs of the bird) can sport white spots or be entirely white (although it's possible for a bird to be white-eye but not display any white in the eyes)."[/COLOR]

[COLOR=333333]1 gene white eyes = a part of the train with white eyes.[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]2 genes white eyes = all the eyes are white .[/COLOR]
[COLOR=333333]It's impossible to be split white eyes without displaying white eyes on his train?[/COLOR]

I am wrong ?

Nothing is impossible when mother nature is involved. Absolutely nothing, mutations exist in all species on earth even humans are not immune.

Gerald Barker

 

[WestKnollAmy]

It is always interesting to see what some are getting from crossing certain colors. I enjoy it but so many will not say what they cross to get the new colors so they can corner the market for a while.