Peafowl Color Chart ("Genetics" spreadsheet)

[DylansMom]

I had a quick genetics question. I am kind of lost when it comes to the genetics. I had thought a silver pied female with a blackshoulder male would make IB looking chicks with white flights. So far that's what I have gotten although they are a little lighter than the reg IB's. I figured that was from the white eye gene. This last hatch though I got one with a yellow spot on it's head, it looks like the rest other than that, light IB with half his wings white. I had thought you needed 2 copies of pied/sp to get pied/sp. Was I wrong and can you get pied from SP and BS? Do you think the spot will color in when he gets his feathers or is he pied? I'll put a picture of him (we are calling him Zaphod). It's not the best picture, I just snapped it with my phone.

I am not a genetics expert either, but a few months ago I had asked a bunch of questions regarding my silver pieds, so I will tell you what I was told. The silver pied will be carrying 1 white gene, 1 pied gene and 2 copies of white eye. If the bs is not carrying anything that is hidden and is a straight up bs it carries 2 copies of the bs gene and nothing else. So crossing the 2 will give you all barred wing offspring that are split to bs, but they could also be split to white, or split to pied ( which would be my guess for little Zaphod) and all should be carrying 1 copy of the white eye gene. Hopefully I got that right, but if not I'm sure one of the more learned experts will correct me. I had a bs hen who I didn't know was carrying pied and white eye genes, those are hard to spot on a bs hen, when I crossed her with my green, I got chicks that were obviously split pied and white eye and it didn't come from dad so I figured it must have come from her. One of the chicks had a similar spot on her head and it is actually bigger now. Hope this helps a little!

 

[trinityvu17]

Ah ha! I for some reason thought that the touches of white would only show up in adult feathering of a "split to white"! I never even thought that they could show up in the chick! Very cool! Thanks for the insight!

 

[DylansMom]

Ah ha! I for some reason thought that the touches of white would only show up in adult feathering of a "split to white"! I never even thought that they could show up in the chick! Very cool! Thanks for the insight!

Yeah, you can usually see the white at hatch, it shows up as yellow chick fuzz. This is Crawford, she is a spalding split to pied and white eye. She is the chick I mentioned with the white spots on her head.

 

[connerhills]

What if any . thoughts on what the white spot is indicative of ? thanks ,, connerhills

 

[DylansMom]

What if any . thoughts on what the white spot is indicative of ? thanks ,, connerhills

I assumed it was indicative of the bird being split to pied, is there something else I don't know?

 

[trinityvu17]

Yeah, you can usually see the white at hatch, it shows up as yellow chick fuzz. This is Crawford, she is a spalding split to pied and white eye. She is the chick I mentioned with the white spots on her head.

Gorgeous!!!!

 

[MinxFox]

Now I'm really curious about what they meant by JAVA imperator????

I bought the eggs off of eBay, so who knows... I'll try to post a pick of what the ad said, and perhaps you will have some insight

Perhaps it was just meant to grab the attention of the less knowledgable! Well, It worked!!! Lol!

Well that peacock looks pure to me but I would have to see a full body photo to know for sure. He looks very beautiful. Without having a photo of his wing I can't say if he is a Java or an Imperator. I would say he is an imperator. Some people call all green peafowl Javas when really the overall term is just green peafowl. The seller could have been confused and thought every green peafowl has the word Java in it or something. That peacock has a beautiful, long crest. The chicks don't look all that dark like a Spalding chick would be. It will be interesting to see how much green attributes show up in them. Good luck with those cuties!

 

[SunBaked]

I am not a genetics expert either, but a few months ago I had asked a bunch of questions regarding my silver pieds, so I will tell you what I was told. The silver pied will be carrying 1 white gene, 1 pied gene and 2 copies of white eye. If the bs is not carrying anything that is hidden and is a straight up bs it carries 2 copies of the bs gene and nothing else. So crossing the 2 will give you all barred wing offspring that are split to bs, but they could also be split to white, or split to pied ( which would be my guess for little Zaphod) and all should be carrying 1 copy of the white eye gene. Hopefully I got that right, but if not I'm sure one of the more learned experts will correct me. I had a bs hen who I didn't know was carrying pied and white eye genes, those are hard to spot on a bs hen, when I crossed her with my green, I got chicks that were obviously split pied and white eye and it didn't come from dad so I figured it must have come from her. One of the chicks had a similar spot on her head and it is actually bigger now. Hope this helps a little!

Oh wow, thank you. I didn't think I'd be able to tell which ones carried the pied gene. I looked over all the chicks really well. One of the older batch has a similar spot on it's head but not quite as yellow. Another from this same batch as Zaphod has a spot more towards the back of it's neck where it's lighter colored so it kind of blended in until I was looking for it. I'll grab pictures when I get a chance. Do you think they are split white also because of the white wings or just ib/bs/pied/whiteye (did i even write that the right way?) ? Crawford is beautiful

. Makes me want to keep Zaphod even though I told myself I'm not keeping any from this year.

 

[LilyAlmeyda]

So I’m curious to know, I have a black shoulder male and an Indian blue female: what would be the results of possible offspring?

 

[KsKingBee]

So I’m curious to know, I have a black shoulder male and an Indian blue female: what would be the results of possible offspring?

When people say Black Shoulder we assume that it is IB, so the chicks from that mating are all going to be split BS unless the hen is already split to BS then if she is half of the chicks will be BS and the other half will be dominant color split to BS.