peahens laying in mid november??

[Bigcreekpeafowl]

Weather also plays a role. With our peafowl anyway.
We have gotten eggs sporadically off season over the years. And usually is during warmer than usual temperatures for the season.

And the big poultry producers such as Tyson feeds antibiotics to the birds pretty much throughout their short life.

 

[johnskoi]

my first TRUE attempt (hours in the process-- i can be a bit of a simp) at a pic here on byc...

... and while try to post this, i think i found the easier way to post pics...

 

[johnskoi]

oyyyyyyyyyyyyyy..in the words of gilda radner as emily litella ............ 'nevermind' ..................maybe next week

 

[Chickie'sMoma]

i would think feeding your peas the koi would be part of their natural diet in the wild. after all, don't they on occasion eat fish and snails? lots of different carp species are found throughout parts of Asia and India. i don't think the bones would harm them either since they are like any bird species and have a crop and gizzard that help to break the food down for digestion. though if you think the scales might be an issue you might want to feed them the ones that are scaleless or semi-scaleless.

 

[Frosty]

I am curious... I am seeing a lot of mention about Roundup Ready soy and would like to know exactly the problem is. Is the problem with the genetic modifications made to the plants, or the fact that it's being sprayed with Roundup?

 

[johnskoi]

 

[johnskoi]

it's just easier for me right now to post a link ... http://longislandkoi.com/bycpea.htm

 

[Chickie'sMoma]

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the genetic mods to the plants have allowed them to resist the glysophates used in the Round-Up. though the chemicals used in Round-Up actually cause certain nutrients in the soil to be depleted or pushed away from the area Round-Up was sprayed and this causes less weeds to grow near the area that the plant you want to grow that is GM. those weeds would normally feed off certain nutrients found in the soil like any plant should. but, since the Round-Up forces those nutrients away from an area the weeds are less likely to grow. the down fall is that those nutrients that the GM plant should also be feeding on are not there so they make the resulting plant and it's fruit less nutritious in its chemical makeup even though it looks like it grew normally. many weeds are becoming resistant now and other herbicides are starting to be used with the Round-up.

but this info is really meant for another forum. you might want to check on www.theeasygarden.com they are the sister site to BYC but focus on gardening and farming of the land.

 

[Chickie'sMoma]

John, another thought about using your koi culls to feed your peas. what do you give the fish for their feed. most koi food i've seen has some form of soy in them. if you decide to not use anything with soy for your peas you might want to switch over the koi food to something that doesn't contain that. not sure if this could also affect the longevity of your birds but it might be worth researching.

would the higher amounts of ammonia that the koi produce also affect them? i know a few breeders/owners of reptiles in my area will not feed their 'pets' goldfish because of this.

 

[ColbyNTX]

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I was a science major and the one thing I found about studies is there is always another study that is 180 degs the other way. It's good lto look at studies but nothing takes the place of experence. The feeds we are feeding for the most part are not the feeds used for quick comerical production. There is nothing wrong with some of the bag feeds for home flocks for long term production. There is also nothing wrong with making your own mix as long as you get all your bird needs in the mix. As far as carcinogens go, the sun causes cancer! Do we keep our birds from the sun? There is more than one way to skin a cat!