Really? Both of you? is there any Benadryll involved here per chance? Gardeningmama: I googled the Fair, looks like a pretty big one, Cow Chip Throwing and the whole nine yards. I think I'm going to shoot for Saturday the 21st as that's when they are showing the chickens, I'm guessing that we will know for sure what we have as far as roos or hens by then... at least I hope so. Posted my pics on the Orp Thread, so far One person in agreement that the black one I think is a roo, IS a roo. I DID buy traps for the foxes, so far all it's done is start a problem with one of my kids messing around with it. Dangerous stuff, fox traps. Same kid ate the Desitin when he was little, if it wasn't nailed down or locked up, he was into it. I had poison control on speed dial.