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which chicken broiler breeds would you all recommend?   and how long do you raise them until?

how do you keep from getting attached?

One thing that might help is if I got the same breed so that they would look similar and then seem less like individuals...........not sure if you know what I mean?


Some breeds....
Cornish Cross- fastest growing, can be problematic health wise if not careful about food. Usually butchered between 7 to 10 wks of age, can go a bit longer for bigger carcass. Prone to Congestive Heart Failure and leg problems if allowed to grow into adulthood, though some can do ok. Can be allowed to 'free range' but also do well in confined raising scenarios. Usually very squat and thick legs and oversized breast meat.

Red Rangers, Freedom Rangers- a bit slower growing, do well out free ranging, less prone to the health issues than the Cornish X but still can be overfed. Usually raised till 14-20 wks depending on type of cross and the size of carcass wanted. Tend to be longer legged and less 'breasty'.

Heritage dual purpose birds- many breeds tend to produce good size roos which can be good for the pot. Many of the 'rocks' (barred, whites), Dorking, Sussex, Bresse (sp?) and many more. They are the slowest to mature to butcher weight (often 18 to 24 wks), and are usually biproducts so to speak of other hatching practices, but some folks like to raise these breeds because they are easily kept for eggs and good personalities. Culling the extra roos for the table is a 'bonus', so to speak. Special feeding and handling of the birds can alter the taste of the meat somewhat, especially the bresse (I think that is actually a French meat bird)

Check out the thread.... Processing day support group.... in the meat bird section. The first 10 or 15 pages really digs into folks' reasons for raising, thoughts on butchering and methods used. Is a good thread to take the time to go through if you are thinking about raising your own meat birds.
 
Some breeds....
Cornish Cross- fastest growing, can be problematic health wise if not careful about food. Usually butchered between 7 to 10 wks of age, can go a bit longer for bigger carcass. Prone to Congestive Heart Failure and leg problems if allowed to grow into adulthood, though some can do ok. Can be allowed to 'free range' but also do well in confined raising scenarios. Usually very squat and thick legs and oversized breast meat.

Red Rangers, Freedom Rangers- a bit slower growing, do well out free ranging, less prone to the health issues than the Cornish X but still can be overfed. Usually raised till 14-20 wks depending on type of cross and the size of carcass wanted. Tend to be longer legged and less 'breasty'.

Heritage dual purpose birds- many breeds tend to produce good size roos which can be good for the pot. Many of the 'rocks' (barred, whites), Dorking, Sussex, Bresse (sp?) and many more. They are the slowest to mature to butcher weight (often 18 to 24 wks), and are usually biproducts so to speak of other hatching practices, but some folks like to raise these breeds because they are easily kept for eggs and good personalities. Culling the extra roos for the table is a 'bonus', so to speak. Special feeding and handling of the birds can alter the taste of the meat somewhat, especially the bresse (I think that is actually a French meat bird)

Check out the thread.... Processing day support group.... in the meat bird section. The first 10 or 15 pages really digs into folks' reasons for raising, thoughts on butchering and methods used. Is a good thread to take the time to go through if you are thinking about raising your own meat birds.
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.....I forgot about the "support group"...I need to check that out myself...thanks FL!
 
***Have a question about the "meaties"....okay,
The biggest thing that is REALLY keeping us from doing them is DO they crow? Are they 'around' long enough to make alot of noise? If we are nixing them at 10 wks? like the cornish x...
we have space , but we are not jerks to the neighbors...and we don't want to be awake at 5am because of crowing..not that it really matters cause some 'other' noises are already starting, but that is another thread
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...thank you-danielle
 
***Have a question about the "meaties"....okay,
The biggest thing that is REALLY keeping us from doing them is DO they crow? Are they 'around' long enough to make alot of noise? If we are nixing them at 10 wks? like the cornish x...
we have space , but we are not jerks to the neighbors...and we don't want to be awake at 5am because of crowing..not that it really matters cause some 'other' noises are already starting, but that is another thread
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...thank you-danielle

LMP:

I'll try answer your question and raise you a question.....a)for the cornish, I believe (from what I've read) they are just starting to get vocal...for freedom or others...I think they will be getting their game on...I've read that folks time the harvest when the first crow is herd....I've also read that the smarter folks wait for cooler weather to harvest as it keeps the bugs at bay....

now my question...for those that do meaties....there will always be some mess left over/spillage etc...does that bring in preditors?.....I can only assume its like smelling cotton candy at the fair......

and a belated howdy to Cheryl.... from the other end of the state...
 
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Spent my morning making two things for a pot luck at work tomorrow
1. Cut up bananas, spread with peanut butter, then dipped in chocolate and frozen.
2.. two cans of Pringles dipped in chocolate



Hubby has been home all day and my daughter and grandkids stopped by...
Left over for tomorrow is
7 Pringles and 3 banana chunks

Now what?
 
LMP:

I'll try answer your question and raise you a question.....a)for the cornish, I believe (from what I've read) they are just starting to get vocal...for freedom or others...I think they will be getting their game on...I've read that folks time the harvest when the first crow is herd....I've also read that the smarter folks wait for cooler weather to harvest as it keeps the bugs at bay....

now my question...for those that do meaties....there will always be some mess left over/spillage etc...does that bring in preditors?.....I can only assume its like smelling cotton candy at the fair......

and a belated howdy to Cheryl.... from the other end of the state...
We would most likely raise them Mid -Augt.-Sept.threw- Oct...the cooler months to cull. Our thinking is no or very little heat lamp usage, because of warmer temps. in Aug.-sept. They could pretty much go straight outside. Or would it be better in the spring? I have very little knowledge with this... As to the smell, are talking about when they are processed or just them being smelly birds as a whole? (Sorry, I am not catching on quick tonight, I need to go to bed..not enough sleep lately.) We would intend on doing the processing ourselves..totally okay with the whole process...just would like to be fully educated. We wouldn't be doing alot, maybe half a dozen birds....just for personal consumption. I can not eat meat, so would be just for DH and company....you get the picture
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In my opinion, the smell from meaties will be more of the issue than the noise....doesn't matter how. Clean you keep them they will smell
is this just a "breed" thing..or because they just eat & crap all day? sorry....I know so many of you have raised these things, and you probably use the DE and sweet-stuff(anti-stink)...that doesn't help?
 
Spent my morning making two things for a pot luck at work tomorrow
1. Cut up bananas, spread with peanut butter, then dipped in chocolate and frozen.
2.. two cans of Pringles dipped in chocolate



Hubby has been home all day and my daughter and grandkids stopped by...
Left over for tomorrow is
7 Pringles and 3 banana chunks

Now what?
got a store close by? if so, go buy left over bakery items, if not, you're in deep sugar
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We would most likely raise them Mid -Augt.-Sept.threw- Oct...the cooler months to cull. Our thinking is no or very little heat lamp usage, because of warmer temps. in Aug.-sept. They could pretty much go straight outside.  Or would it be better in the spring? I have very little knowledge with this... As to the smell, are talking about when they are processed or just them being smelly birds as a whole? (Sorry, I am not catching on quick tonight, I need to go to bed..not enough  sleep lately.) We would intend on doing the processing ourselves..totally okay with the whole process...just would like to be fully educated.   We wouldn't be doing alot, maybe half a dozen birds....just for personal consumption. I can not eat meat, so would be just for DH and company....you get the picture;)
is this just a "breed" thing..or because they just eat & crap all day? sorry....I know so many of you have raised these things, and you probably use the DE and sweet-stuff(anti-stink)...that doesn't help?


Our meaties of choice were the Cornish, so processed before crowing. But all of the meat birds will crow when they hit puberty, some earlier than others, so you have to have a way of dealing with it if you want them to go longer for more size.

Yep, meat birds tend to stink, it is just a fact of life because of the amount of food they process through their systems. The smell can be greatly reduced through giving them room to range during the day on grass or wooded areas (spreading it out and exposing to fresh air and rain greatly reduces the smell) and a lot of folks feed them fermented food, to further reduce the amount of waste. But they are eating, growing and pooping machines, without a doubt. We keep ours on sand in the coop, so I raked their area every other day or sometimes daily, it helped greatly.

Timing is everything when it comes to meaties. You are right to figure warm weather when they are small and cold when it's time to butcher. But if you want a fall run of birds you have to figure the right breed to fit the time frame you want to use. I wouldn't go too late in the fall or you run the risk of inclement weather forcing the birds to hang out in a coop all day when they are full grown.
 

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