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I agree, if the bantams are not picking on the lone roo, you can put him with them. Just observe behavior for a while before leaving. I'm glad they stopped dying. I'm really sorry for your loss. I'm new to this as well and I didn't know something like that could happen with a new bag of food. Now I worry about ours! To the other experienced chicken ladies, how do you know when the food you bought is no good?
 
This one looked normal but I still needto check dates. Trying to find some fun colored Easter eggers for my daughter. The Wyandottes were mine and all of my blue survived even my roo as well as one silver and one gold but she lost her favorite two EEs. I know people don't breed them for shows and stuff but hopefully I can find something.
 
yoopergirl1211 said:
This one looked normal but I still needto check dates. Trying to find some fun colored Easter eggers for my daughter. The Wyandottes were mine and all of my blue survived even my roo as well as one silver and one gold but she lost her favorite two EEs. I know people don't breed them for shows and stuff but hopefully I can find something.
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I wish you were no so far away. I could fill your brooders again.

Now I'm a little worried about my feed supply. I buy directly from a feed mill (cheaper by the ton, and they deliver). I suppose they take great precautions to keep toxins out of their mill, I can imagine they would put a lot of farmers out of business if they didn't.
 
MotorcycleChick said:
I knew because I saw the mold. You can avoid some problems by checking dates on bags. My problem was with a local mill. I was told that the bags weren't sealed correctly in that batch.
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I think one of the things that makes botulinum toxin so dangerous is that it is generally flavorless, odorless, and not visible to the naked eye. I would certainly avoid giving moldy or otherwise suspect looking feed, but I don't think there's a sure way to know if your feed is ok. :(. It sounds like @yoopergirl1211 bought brand name food from a reputable source--if botulism poisoning is confirmed through necropsy, I would expect both TSC and the feed manufacturer to do something to compensate her for her losses. It sounds like the hatchery is replacing the youngest chicks, but the older birds and also the awful ordeal you went through are worth some consideration.
 
yoopergirl1211 said:
I just finally got time to read about botulism and I'm almost positive thats what happened. The way they died was spot on for it as well as how long it took for some. The only thing I could have done was flush out crop but it might not have helped and I've never done it so I probably would have done it wrong. Thank you everyone. Sorry again for the running commentary of awfulness.
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Please don't apologize, I just felt so bad yesterday that I couldn't help at all. So sorry you had this crappy experience. We are thankful that you shared, as we can all learn something from this. Hopefully you can get them tested so that you can at least be compensated for your troubles.
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FluffyButt789 said:
I agree, if the bantams are not picking on the lone roo, you can put him with them. Just observe behavior for a while before leaving. I'm glad they stopped dying. I'm really sorry for your loss. I'm new to this as well and I didn't know something like that could happen with a new bag of food. Now I worry about ours! To the other experienced chicken ladies, how do you know when the food you bought is no good?
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I once had a bag of feed that was moldy as well. I contacted Purina and they sent me a voucher for a fresh bag. I have only had that problem once.
 
I had a dear friend who bred the most gorgeous finches--owl finches, blue caps and all the rare varieties and mutations of gouldians. She was a chemist and scientist and was baffled when her babies started dying in the nest--her adults were all fine, but for months she couldn't raise one baby. After testing everything in the birdroom, sending the dead babies out to be tested --they finally tested the food. There were traces of bacteria in the food which the adults could handle, but when she sprouted the seed (warm moist environment) the levels became lethal for the babies. I think it was EColi, but I honestly don't remember. She lived for her birds and kept them meticulously--she was devastated to think that the hard work she did sprouting seed was in effect, poisoning them.
I would love to know any numbers on the bag from Tractor Supply. Maybe they need to do a recall?
 
Thanks again everyone. I still just feel kinda numb. The one blue Wyandotte that was still iffy was running around today, little guy is fine in with Bantams who are also all good and Hedwig is her silly self. Hubby might be home Sun. Here is the bag. Not sure where to find date.
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