I talked to some people on the Ameraucana Thread. There is a lot of hokey stuff being said..............on the bright side the business was sold to another man. He is ligit, he fills the orders.........................but if your look under the incubator thread, under reviews, they catch on fire pretty easily. I know they all can, but the ratio to how many where made versus how many caught on fire was a little bit to close to me. I am going to just keep using my styro's for a while, and save up for a Brisnea 190, and the water pump. It will cost probably $1000.00 with the shipping. Of course I am chicken crazy, but that is a lot of $$$. I also thought about making my own.............who knows. I am not going to stress about it.