People amaze me.. Update

[yinepu]

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I had a dog who would absolutely refuse to go outside when it was sunny without her sunglasses on.. at night she was fine.. but I came to realize that the bright sunlight hurt her eyes so I gave in and had her sunglasses by the back door for when she needed to go out
I thought she looked silly and it was a bother to put them on her each and every time.. but when a 50 pound dog sits by the door and refuses to budge even when you know she NEEDS to go... well.. it's hard to tell her how dumb she looks with glasses

 

[yinepu]

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I agree.. and from some of the people I have met.. well.. lets say some of my critters can beat them in the intelligence and awareness departments! (especially my african grey)

 

[aoxa]

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Once my poodle had a pink mohawk for all but a day. Came out in the rain

She didn't care. It was really hilarious.

I think dying your kids' hair is just as bad as dying your pets.

ETA: My mom used to perm my hair under the age of 5.

Yeah i wasnt allowed to even think of dying my hair till i was 15. Perms under the age of 5? Where you one of those kid models? That is the only reason i can think of that it would be allowed that young. And my pets where their own faults and i thought it was funny at the time and it actually was. My cat way a boy to so that made the pink even better lol.

Nope. Not a kid model. I found pictures of my hair up in those perm curlers when I was 4. Not sure if I asked for it, but even if I did, why allow a 4 year old to put chemicals in her hair? I was allowed to do more than I would ever allow my own children to. Freedom doesn't make your kids like you any more than they would if you sheltered them.

I remember getting perms. I got them right up until I was 10 or so and got tired of all the pain from getting my hair wrapped up. It took forever too.

 

[featherfinder]

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Yeah i wasnt allowed to even think of dying my hair till i was 15. Perms under the age of 5? Where you one of those kid models? That is the only reason i can think of that it would be allowed that young. And my pets where their own faults and i thought it was funny at the time and it actually was. My cat way a boy to so that made the pink even better lol.

Nope. Not a kid model. I found pictures of my hair up in those perm curlers when I was 4. Not sure if I asked for it, but even if I did, why allow a 4 year old to put chemicals in her hair? I was allowed to do more than I would ever allow my own children to. Freedom doesn't make your kids like you any more than they would if you sheltered them.

I remember getting perms. I got them right up until I was 10 or so and got tired of all the pain from getting my hair wrapped up. It took forever too.

Yeah i know how long they take. My mom and grandma get them all the time. I could never. I straighten my hair everyday pretty much. I think if i would have asked for something like that at 4 my mom would have deffinitly said no! lol. Well no damage was done. Just some parents are more leneint ( i know i spelled that wrong) then others. You must have been a very patient kid to go threw all that time sitting still to put rollers in your hair!

 

[aoxa]

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Nope. Not a kid model. I found pictures of my hair up in those perm curlers when I was 4. Not sure if I asked for it, but even if I did, why allow a 4 year old to put chemicals in her hair? I was allowed to do more than I would ever allow my own children to. Freedom doesn't make your kids like you any more than they would if you sheltered them.

I remember getting perms. I got them right up until I was 10 or so and got tired of all the pain from getting my hair wrapped up. It took forever too.

Yeah i know how long they take. My mom and grandma get them all the time. I could never. I straighten my hair everyday pretty much. I think if i would have asked for something like that at 4 my mom would have deffinitly said no! lol. Well no damage was done. Just some parents are more leneint ( i know i spelled that wrong) then others. You must have been a very patient kid to go threw all that time sitting still to put rollers in your hair!

Must have been! I'm sure they put the TV on or something

Kids go into a trance when the TV is on.

My parents let me get a tattoo at 14. Probably not the best decision. Now I wish it was gone.

They also let me get piercing/etc. I wish my parents would have disallowed more things than allowed. I'm lucky that I am not a big 'follower' never had issues with alcohol. My brother on the other hand.. Yeah.. He got a girl pregnant at 15 and is an alcoholic. He is the reason my kids will have structured lives. Structure is very important IMO.

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

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As long as it is not harmful to the animal, why does it bother you that someone would tattoo or dye their pet? Or care about it enough to will their assets for its care? If someone has money--regardless of how much or how little--what they choose to do with it is THEIR business and not anyone else's. Dying fur or tattooing for ornamentation really is not that different than having a pet groomed with a stylish fur cut or getting a fancy collar, as compared with one that is only functional.

There is NOTHING wrong!

 

[aoxa]

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As long as it is not harmful to the animal, why does it bother you that someone would tattoo or dye their pet? Or care about it enough to will their assets for its care? If someone has money--regardless of how much or how little--what they choose to do with it is THEIR business and not anyone else's. Dying fur or tattooing for ornamentation really is not that different than having a pet groomed with a stylish fur cut or getting a fancy collar, as compared with one that is only functional.

There is NOTHING wrong!

If the tattooing is hurting the animal, why would this be okay? Anything for ornamental use that does not damage the pet is fine by me.

 

[zzGypsy]

there seems to be an inate drive for people to ornament themselves, paint themselves, decorate their bodies. every culture does it in some way - tattoos, scarification, jewelry, makeup, hair styles, clothing - it's part of how we identify ourselves as part of a tribe, identify our position within the tribe, identify ourselves as individuals within a tribe. it serves communication purposes with the spirit world (as in ritual dress), or with individuals in neighboring tribes (as in war paint on your horse), or protective purposes (as in north african tattoos used to ward off illness or evil spirits, or wedding rings used to indicate a person's not available for courting...)

there seems to be a natural instinct to do it. and there seems to be an instinctive urge to extend that decorative behavior to everyting around us. our homes, our children or spouse, our animals.

I think what strike us as "odd" is just something that's not typical or familiar within our home culture. in the US, scarification as a means of beauty enhancement seems extreme and wierd. but in central africa, it's the norm, everyone does it, not odd at all.

from that perspective, I don't find it wierd. some folks take these things further than others, and any behavior that gets too far from cultural norm eventually reaches "odd".

personally, I find dressing animals for entertainment or style reasons is silly and a waste of time, but then I don't spend any big effort on makeup for myself either unless there's a culturally compelling reason like a social event with photos. I do have a "why paint cats?" calendar that has some intricate and very artistic, and some very odd, renditions of cats-as-canvas. cats like petting and grooming, so if it's done in a way where the cat enjoys the process, I see no harm in it.

tattoos on animals? if done for identification, no problem. if done for decorative purposes... does it harm the animal? was the animal put through a painful process without anesthesia? if not, well, I think it's silly, and certainly it reaches the edges of odd, but what's the harm?

I have goats and sheep and in the winter lambing season, the lambs and kids need jackets. I've made these out of fabric, and hand towels, and bought them, but lately the best solution is the trendy little jackets for dogs... they're sturdy, they stay put, they are warm, they come in a variety of sizes for different sized lambs and kids, they're easy to put on, they're washable, and if you shop for them on sale as styles change, they're cheap. so that's why I use them. however I will say I'm highly entertained by lambs in camo jackets and hoddies with skulls embroidered on them, or pink jackets with rhinestone snaps and fake fur trim on the edges.

it's adorable as well as practical. people may think I'm nuts, but hey, it's all good with me.

so, I'm in on the not abuse side of the issue, provided it was done in a way the animal did not object to.

for willing your estate to the animals... someone has to provide for their care once you're gone. it's as close to a guarantee that they'll get the care they should have as you can get. and it creates a paid job for the caretaker, so that's useful too. if it's going to the animals instead of the chidren, well, maybe that speaks to the relationship between parent and child. or maybe it speaks to a distorted value system in the willer, but that's a personal issue that needs an understanding of the individual circumstances to comment on.

 

[RHRanch]

You know, if you go to the shelter where I live, there are tons of middle aged and old dogs - a lot of them poodles or similar... Do you know how a lot of those "older" dogs get to shelters? Their owners die and either have no money to leave for their care, or don't leave money for their care and the deceased persons children or grandchildren leave grandmas dog in the shelter to be most likely euthanized. I wouldn't want that happening to my dogs. So yeah, putting money aside for their care and putting it in a trust or will makes sense to me.

 

[PaulaSB12]

What I want to know is how do people get clothes on cats without major blood loss? I know if I tried it with my three monsters I would be in hosptial.