Permethrin for laying ducks?

[WannaBeHillBilly]

Hi Friends,

with the weather being so wet here, a fly problem has developed in and around the duck house.
Even though all of the duckies have passed their master's degree in fly-catching they can't keep up with the flies anymore, so i wonder how we can get rid of the swarms in a safe way. I tried those glue traps and they turned from yellowish to black in just five minutes and there were still thousands of black flies swarming around.
What about Permethrin? Is it safe to use around laying ducks? -
Meaning: When the flies die and fall to the floor the duckies will eat them and it wonder if that could harm the ducks? - I know that pyrethroids are for example toxic to cats. Will some of that stuff ends up in the eggs? We got poisoned in the past by refrigerants and black mold and i don't want to add something additional to that.
Is there anything else that would help against swarms of black flies?

 

[chickens really]

Sand and covered Runs turning the sand so it can dry helps. I wouldn't use any chemical with layers. Vanilla car fresheners deter flies too..

 

[casportpony]

What about Permethrin? Is it safe to use around laying ducks? -
Meaning: When the flies die and fall to the floor the duckies will eat them and it wonder if that could harm the ducks?

When used as labeled, permethrin products are safe for *all fowl* and *all laying hens* (no egg withdrawal). I also wondered about them eating permethrin dipped flies and so far I have not seen any ill effects from them doing so.

Any of these products can be used with ducks:


Best value is the 36.8% stuff, which is what I use. It's almost 4 times as concentrated, which means you use much less.


Tractor Supply sells this:

And this is how I mix the 10% stuff when treating for flies:

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

Sand and covered Runs turning the sand so it can dry helps. I wouldn't use any chemical with layers. Vanilla car fresheners deter flies too..

My Duckies don't have a run - they have their house, which is swarmed with flies and they have a lot of fenced in pasture with Trees and shrubs where they spend their days hunting, drilling holes and making all kinds of messes.
I don't think the flies breed in the bedding, yes there's duck poop in the straw, but that usually dries out completely during the day. I have no clue where the flies are breeding and what they're after in the house, but they do suck!!!

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

When used as labeled, permethrin products are safe for *all fowl* and *all laying hens* (no egg withdrawal). I also wondered about them eating permethrin dipped flies and so far I have not seen any ill effects from them doing so.

Any of these products can be used with ducks:
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Best value is the 36.8% stuff, which is what I use. It's almost 4 times as concentrated, which means you use much less.
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Tractor Supply sells this:
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And this is how I mix the 10% stuff when treating for flies:
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Thank you very much! I will try one of the weaker solutions and start spraying the outside walls and the chicken wire in the ventilation windows, let's see if that helps.

 

[chickens really]

My Duckies don't have a run - they have their house, which is swarmed with flies and they have a lot of fenced in pasture with Trees and shrubs where they spend their days hunting, drilling holes and making all kinds of messes.
I don't think the flies breed in the bedding, yes there's duck poop in the straw, but that usually dries out completely during the day. I have no clue where the flies are breeding and what they're after in the house, but they do suck!!!

Oh switch to pine shavings and hang a vanilla car freshener..

 

[casportpony]

yes there's duck poop in the straw,

Flies *love* straw!

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

Flies *love* straw!

I did not know that!

 

[WannaBeHillBilly]

Oh switch to pine shavings and hang a vanilla car freshener..

Too much ventilation for any air freshener in their house and pine shavings for 17 ducks? They would have to lay much more eggs before i can afford that. I can leave the straw in for ~3 months and only add a thin layer every weekend, i know what they would do with shavings…

 

[chickens really]

What would they do with shavings ?