Permethrin purchased in hopes of solving mite problem. Good idea?

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so I bought this 5% permethrin spray today at Rural King. It is designated for clothing and found in the camping section. Says do not use on skin. I am hoping it is safe to use for scaly leg mites on one girl, and general bugs on a broody. Anyone have any experience with this? Seems less messy and more accurate than the powder treatment . Appreciate any feedback and advice.
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Hi there. :frow

Permethrin is considered ineffective for scaly leg mite as they may never come to the surface of the skin and make contact with it.

Vaseline or other viscous substance rubbed on legs two nights in a row should suffocate them.

Permethrin is a good choice for northern fowl mites and lice in addition to many other things like mosquitoes, fleas, flies and so on. Getting the correct level for said parasite is important... as well as re treating in the specified amount of time for specific parasite in order to prevent resistance to the drug.

Found in the equine section and labeled for use in chickens... No withdrawal is required for eggs. Usually a small spritz directly to the skin, feathers parted... just below the vent, under each wing pit, and to the nape of the neck
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The one I posted is totally safe on broody's and chicks get a cotton swab soaked in the stuff used for better control. I agree, less messy and more accurate than powder. I would prefer this pump style over that propelled can... but I *might* use the propelled one of it were too much hassle to return.

NOT safe for use in cats.

Treat all birds in your flock, even if they seem less effected.. to prevent them from becoming the next targets.

:fl

ETA: it's the other non active ingredients that might not be so chicken friendly.
 
Hi there. :frow

Permethrin is considered ineffective for scaly leg mite as they may never come to the surface of the skin and make contact with it.

Vaseline or other viscous substance rubbed on legs two nights in a row should suffocate them.

Permethrin is a good choice for northern fowl mites and lice in addition to many other things like mosquitoes, fleas, flies and so on. Getting the correct level for said parasite is important... as well as re treating in the specified amount of time for specific parasite in order to prevent resistance to the drug.

Found in the equine section and labeled for use in chickens... No withdrawal is required for eggs. Usually a small spritz directly to the skin, feathers parted... just below the vent, under each wing pit, and to the nape of the neck
TE006407

The one I posted is totally safe on broody's and chicks get a cotton swab soaked in the stuff used for better control. I agree, less messy and more accurate than powder. I would prefer this pump style over that propelled can... but I *might* use the propelled one of it were too much hassle to return.

NOT safe for use in cats.

Treat all birds in your flock, even if they seem less effected.. to prevent them from becoming the next targets.

:fl

ETA: it's the other non active ingredients that might not be so chicken friendly.
Very helpful thank you! Can you tell me when you can tell the leg mites are gone/ better? I've done the Vaseline at least 4 times and my BO's legs still look scaly on the front,:(
...which is where the problem is....They do look pretty healthy on the back though and her feet.
 
Very helpful thank you! Can you tell me when you can tell the leg mites are gone/ better? I've done the Vaseline at least 4 times and my BO's legs still look scaly on the front,:(
...which is where the problem is....They do look pretty healthy on the back though and her feet.
Ah yes.. it can be very confusing... because the scales will continue to look like crud until they fall off and are replaced by fresh ones. :hmm

How old is your gal?

I took one of my hens in to the vet to verify if I had SLM due to dry or slightly lifted looking scales. He said we didn't have any signs of SLM at that time... and that it would essentially look like yellow growth of keratin similar to fingernails coming out from under the scales and lifting them up. Of course I'm SURE there could be other less noticeable loads than that.

I know some people will try soaking and scrubbing the lifted scales off with a tooth brush. But once the parasites are treated, I think it's mostly cosmetic.

I do believe the natural falling off will take place with time. After doing that treatment so many times... I would have to presume it was effective and try giving it about a month and see if there is any change.

Did you already post pics and get the opinion that it SLM and not just dry or aged scales? You are welcome to post a pic here as well. Maybe using the pics posted for before and after comparisons instead of trying to recall the condition from memory.

Worst comes to worst... pour on ivermectiv is not labeled for use in chickens so egg withdrawal time is not WELL researched. Dosage and withdrawal suggestions are available though... and it IS considered effective against SLM, lice, depluming mites, and a whole host of other systemic feeder parasites.

Good for you for being persistent until you get results! :highfive:

The same is true when people deal with feather mites and such... the feathers *may* continue to look ragged until molt. Sometimes the difference is noticeable shortly after... but with living things there really is so much that just happens when the body is ready or triggered by other environmental factors that we may not be in direct control of. Hang in there!
 
so I bought this 5% permethrin spray today at Rural King. It is designated for clothing and found in the camping section. Says do not use on skin. I am hoping it is safe to use for scaly leg mites on one girl, and general bugs on a broody. Anyone have any experience with this? Seems less messy and more accurate than the powder treatment . Appreciate any feedback and advice. View attachment 1750836 View attachment 1750837

I agree with the other answers here, but just want to add that there are dangers with aerosols around and especially on chickens, because of what chemicals are used to make it an aerosol spray. The ingredients they call "inactive" or "inert" or whatever term they use are NOT inert or inactive while floatinga round in the air where they can breathe it. It's just like the dangers of using a teflon pan in an enclosed area with chicks near it, like in the next room, with no ventilation pulling air the other way... they can start dropping dead, and you might never know why, but it's because the teflon puts off fumes into the air that are deadly to chicks. So I try to never ever use any aerosol anywhere around birds.
 
I agree with the other answers here, but just want to add that there are dangers with aerosols around and especially on chickens, because of what chemicals are used to make it an aerosol spray. The ingredients they call "inactive" or "inert" or whatever term they use are NOT inert or inactive while floatinga round in the air where they can breathe it. It's just like the dangers of using a teflon pan in an enclosed area with chicks near it, like in the next room, with no ventilation pulling air the other way... they can start dropping dead, and you might never know why, but it's because the teflon puts off fumes into the air that are deadly to chicks. So I try to never ever use any aerosol anywhere around birds.
Thank you! Quite shocking to learn this!:eek:I had no idea about Teflon being that toxic to chickens. I have not used it in years and only use cast iron and once in awhile stainless for cooking. Think I will exchange the spray for a pump type as suggested above.
 
Ah yes.. it can be very confusing... because the scales will continue to look like crud until they fall off and are replaced by fresh ones. :hmm

How old is your gal?

I took one of my hens in to the vet to verify if I had SLM due to dry or slightly lifted looking scales. He said we didn't have any signs of SLM at that time... and that it would essentially look like yellow growth of keratin similar to fingernails coming out from under the scales and lifting them up. Of course I'm SURE there could be other less noticeable loads than that.

I know some people will try soaking and scrubbing the lifted scales off with a tooth brush. But once the parasites are treated, I think it's mostly cosmetic.

I do believe the natural falling off will take place with time. After doing that treatment so many times... I would have to presume it was effective and try giving it about a month and see if there is any change.
Thanks! Mildred will be 6 years old in September. I've done the toothbrush with Dawn, soaked in oil, coated with Vaseline. Will post a pic as soon as I can!

Did you already post pics and get the opinion that it SLM and not just dry or aged scales? You are welcome to post a pic here as well. Maybe using the pics posted for before and after comparisons instead of trying to recall the condition from memory.

Worst comes to worst... pour on ivermectiv is not labeled for use in chickens so egg withdrawal time is not WELL researched. Dosage and withdrawal suggestions are available though... and it IS considered effective against SLM, lice, depluming mites, and a whole host of other systemic feeder parasites.

Good for you for being persistent until you get results! :highfive:

The same is true when people deal with feather mites and such... the feathers *may* continue to look ragged until molt. Sometimes the difference is noticeable shortly after... but with living things there really is so much that just happens when the body is ready or triggered by other environmental factors that we may not be in direct control of. Hang in there!
 
I agree with the other answers here, but just want to add that there are dangers with aerosols around and especially on chickens, because of what chemicals are used to make it an aerosol spray. The ingredients they call "inactive" or "inert" or whatever term they use are NOT inert or inactive while floatinga round in the air where they can breathe it. It's just like the dangers of using a teflon pan in an enclosed area with chicks near it, like in the next room, with no ventilation pulling air the other way... they can start dropping dead, and you might never know why, but it's because the teflon puts off fumes into the air that are deadly to chicks. So I try to never ever use any aerosol anywhere around birds.
Been trying to reply.....BYC acting up. Anyway, girl is 6 years old this Sept. I've done the Dawn soak, the oil soak and the tooth brush scrub and the Vaseline. Will post a pic as soon as I can.! thanks!
 
Have used all treatments you mentioned and then some! I will try to post a photo today. Her legs look very scaly, I did not know it could just be age. Thank you
 

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