PHILIPPINES BYC GROUP

[mmmyyykkkeee]

can you work from home in a BPO?

I have the privilege to work from home. The company provided me a laptop and they pay for my internet so i can work from home most especially during typhoons. I don't take in phone calls, so yes i can work from home.

 

[mmmyyykkkeee]

I WOULD TAKE THE MONEY LOL

BTW I am now arriving Sat morning. I am supposed to be escorting my wifes Aunt and Uncle so I changed for them. Now I am not sure if they are coming   

Lol i'd love to report to work if they pay me double. Sometimes i want to go back to being a rank and file and enjoy the double pay benefit. Haha

wow, few days more. welcome back!

 

[mmmyyykkkeee]

i only feed it the first 2 weeks to baby chicks 

then i feed them 22% starter/grower till they are 8 weeks old

at 8 weeks of age i switch to 15% grower

this gives the birds bones time to become large enough to support them

i tend to keep my birds on grower feed till they either start laying or when they reach 20 weeks of age

whichever comes first 

Thanks @piglett. I think since my birds are cagef, i must give them the right feeds so they can grow up to their real size.

 

[ozexpat]

Its great that nutrition comes up.here.

Its really important to feed a good diet to young birds. Many people skimp or feed too much low protein kitchen scraps.

In saying that, feeding too high a proetin level is bad for birds. The birds will often be skinny because their hunger drive switches off when they have enough protein - actually they will eat past their protein need to a certain extent but not enough to meet their energy needs. This extra protein is pooped out in the form of ammonia and makes the coop stink.

The following is the recomended needs for layer type breeds. For dual purpose breeds add 2%. Note the energy requirements dont change - just the protein levels

Energy base kcal ME per kilogram diet* Growing 0 to 6 weeks Growing 6 to 14 weeks Growing 14 to 20 weeks Laying Laying, daily intake per hen** Breeding
2,900 2,900 2,900 2,900 2,900
Protein (%) 18 15 12 14.5 16,000 mg 14.5

Several studies show that over 18% in adult birds decreases egg size, production rates and chicken weight.

We mix our own feeds.

Our quail chick feed is the most expensive because its 28% protein. This is also fed to Guinea keets for 4 weeks and Chukkar chicks. If we had turkey poults, we would feed it to them as well.

When we make it ourself we pay the equivalent of 1120 pesos per 50kg sak, or 22.4 pesos per kg

20% chick feed for our chickens costs us 920 per 50kg sak or 18.4 pesos per kg

Adult bird feed (all except quail) is 820 per 50kg sak or 16.4 pesos per kg.

if you feed scratch feeds like cracked corn, or fruits, make sure you only feed 5% of the diet or you will dilute the protein too much

In the phils you can add nutritious treats in the form of a branch from a malunggay, mulberry or jackfruit tree. Ipil Ipil is ok too but again just a small branch hanhing in the coop.

When birds freerange, most of the things you see them peck at are bugs. These are great protein and thus can balance extra kitchen scraps.

 

[mickmeek]

Its great that nutrition comes up.here. Its really important to feed a good diet to young birds. Many people skimp or feed too much low protein kitchen scraps. In saying that, feeding too high a proetin level is bad for birds. The birds will often be skinny because their hunger drive switches off when they have enough protein - actually they will eat past their protein need to a certain extent but not enough to meet their energy needs. This extra protein is pooped out in the form of ammonia and makes the coop stink. The following is the recomended needs for layer type breeds. For dual purpose breeds add 2%. Note the energy requirements dont change - just the protein levels
[TR] Energy base kcal ME per kilogram diet* Growing 0 to 6 weeks Growing 6 to 14 weeks Growing 14 to 20 weeks Laying Laying, daily intake per hen** Breeding [/TR] [TR] 2,900 2,900 2,900 2,900 2,900 [/TR] [TR] Protein (%) 18 15 12 14.5 16,000 mg 14.5 [/TR]
Several studies show that over 18% in adult birds decreases egg size, production rates and chicken weight. We mix our own feeds. Our quail chick feed is the most expensive because its 28% protein. This is also fed to Guinea keets for 4 weeks and Chukkar chicks. If we had turkey poults, we would feed it to them as well. When we make it ourself we pay the equivalent of 1120 pesos per 50kg sak, or 22.4 pesos per kg 20% chick feed for our chickens costs us 920 per 50kg sak or 18.4 pesos per kg Adult bird feed (all except quail) is 820 per 50kg sak or 16.4 pesos per kg. if you feed scratch feeds like cracked corn, or fruits, make sure you only feed 5% of the diet or you will dilute the protein too much In the phils you can add nutritious treats in the form of a branch from a malunggay, mulberry or jackfruit tree. Ipil Ipil is ok too but again just a small branch hanhing in the coop. When birds freerange, most of the things you see them peck at are bugs. These are great protein and thus can balance extra kitchen scraps.

I will buy your own mixed feeds if you will sell it lol, We purchased commercial feeds which very expensive. I want also to mix my own chicken feeds but they aee not selling small amount of fish meal, they selling it per sack.

 

[ozexpat]

it requires a certification to sell mixed feeds

I may be able to sell you a few kilos of soy and fishmeal as you are kocal

 

[RobJones]

I just purchased laying mash, its P30/ kilo.Commercial feeds are so expensive now a days.

I pay Ph 26.00/kilo here in Bohol when I buy a 50kg bag

 

[mickmeek]

it requires a certification to sell mixed feeds

I may be able to sell you a few kilos of soy and fishmeal as you are kocal

Thanks Oz, how much per kilo of soy & fishmeal if you sell it to me?

 

[ozexpat]

INGREDIENTS USED (COPRA IS USED WITH GOATS AND PIGS SO JUST IGNORE HERE)

php/kg Protein % G/Kg Lyseine Calcium Phosph CaO4 Sodium
Copra 14 20 4.7 1.2 5.8 0.2 0.6
Rice Bran 13 12.5 5.5 0.7 13.8 0.1 0.2
Soy Meal 36 50 30.5 3.9 6.9 0.6 0.1
Fish Meal 50 70 52.5 43.4 27.9 1.6 11.3
Corn Bran 14 12 5.4 4.8 3.4 1.4 0.8
Oyster Shell 2 0 0 380 0 0
Salt 2 0 0 0 0 380
Baymix Vit+Elec 250

Basic Nutritional Analysis of my feeds

Protein % 20.1 17.9 16.0 28.2
Lyseine G/Kg 11.4 9.7 8.4 16.5
Calcium G 7.3 11.4 12.8 12.5
Phosph G 5.5 9.3 10.0 8.6
Ca/PO4 1.3 1.2 1.3 1.5
Sodium G 1.44 1.01 0.91 0.78
cost (PER 50KG SACK) PHP 930 PHP 828 PHP 767 PHP 1,131

Recipes

Adult Chickens 16% Adult Quail 18%
Copra 0 KG Copra 0 KG
Rice Bran 70 KG Rice Bran 12 KG
Soy Meal 5 KG Soy Meal 3 KG
Fish Meal 6 KG Fish Meal 1 KG
Corn Meal 50 KG Corn Meal 13 KG
Oyster Shell 3 KG Oyster Shell 0.5 KG
Vit and Minerals 1.5 cups Vit and Minerals 0.25 cups
Salt 0.25 cups Salt 2 cups
135.75KG 29.5 KG

Birds 6-20 wks 18% quail chicks 28% keets
Copra 0 KG Copra 0 KG
Rice Bran 25 KG Rice Bra 3.5 KG
Soy Meal 4.5 KG Soy Meal 4.5 KG
Fish Meal 3 KG Fish Meal 0.5 KG
Corn Meal 25 KG Corn Meal 3.5 KG
Oyster Shell 1 KG Oyster Shell 0.25 KG
Vit and Minerals 0.5 cups Vit and Minerals 1 tbs
Salt 4 TBS Amprolium 1 tsp
58.5 KG Salt 0 TBS
12.25 KG
chicks 20%
Copra 0 KG
Rice Bran 0 KG
Soy Meal 4 KG
Fish Meal 2.5 KG
Corn Meal 30 KG
Oyster Shell 0 KG
Vit and Minerals 0.5 cups
Amprolium 1 TBS
Salt 0 TBS
36.5 KG

 

[ozexpat]

For those in Metro Manila

check out

Progressive Poultry
1013 EDSA, PROJECT 7,
QUEZON CITY, 1005
PHILIPPINES
(02) 372-3636 / 37
(02) 374-1331
[email protected]

They have an amazing array of products. I did a search on the labeling of feeds in the Phils and this is what I came up with:

BMEG PRODUTS (Nutritional Analysis is available from http://thefilipinovet.com/)
BMEG Integra 1000 Chick Booster crude protein 21% min, crude fiber 4% max, crude 4.0% min, crude ash 10% max, moisture 12% max. 1620p
BMEG Integra 2000 Grower Crude protein 19% maximum, crude fiber 5% maximum, crude fat 4.0% minimum, crude ash 10% maximum, moisture 12% maximum. 1550p
BMEG Integra 3000 Maintenance Pellets Crude protein 17% minimum, crude fiber 6% maximum, crude fat 4.0% minimum, crude ash 10% maximum, moisture 12% maximum. 1440p

Progressive has their own line of products. I could only get ingredients - not final concentrarions. They are a reputable company.

PROGRESSIVE POULTRY LABEL
CHICK STARTER MASH 1,045.00
GROWER MASH 1,010.00
GROWER CRUMBLE 1,025.00
LAYER MASH 1,080.00
DUCK LAYER PELLET 1,085.00
MAINTENANCE PELLETS 1,100.00

you can download their full pricelist as a pdf