But not all of it is a big loss...Hundreds of years of breeders selective work is undone in the matter of a few years breeding out in the wild!!
those dragoons...Those dragoons
I dont. It is really odd. I hope the pigeon isn't suffering, i think I would end it's suffering if it was mine.
I agree with your first point. And regarding the weakened grackle - it's likely unrelated but have you heard of the mass bird deaths occurring, particularly in NM?backyard pigeons
I did not find anything wrong with your post. I am actually slightly saddened with post gone. Everything you wrote was true. I did not see anything offensive what so ever.
I had a small flock come thru last week. They stopped for dinner, at my bird feeder and then flew off.
The sad
DW and I both went into the house with sadness. Maybe he just needed to get some rest, but his flock was far gone.
http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2...an be tamed,within a single animal's lifespan.
Yes, they are. Now, there are color changes that while being genetic were a natural change, like the moths that lived in the clean areas were tan and the ones that lived in polluted areas were dark grey, this is because the tan ones in the city were easy to see and got eaten more, the ones in the country were harder to see when they were lighter because of the trees they rested on. Those moths come in both colors naturally but depending on their environment the population is predominantly one color more than the other.
Ok, for the rock doves. If they were wild where they where captured, then once captured, they would still be wild, If they (the same birds that were captured) then start reacting positively to humans, then they would be tame wild animals. An individual animal cannot ever be domesticated but they can be tamed. Now, lets say you breed these rock doves in captivity for several generations, lets say 50 or more years, and you are interacting with them and selectively breeding for a specific trait, say you like a certain pattern and so you breed those more than the others, or you have favorites because they come up to you and do funny things so you breed those more than others, after a while they will not be the same as the birds that were captured because of the selective breeding.Okay... Thanks, I'm fascinated.
So if I were to goto Europe, and bring back pure Columbia livia rock doves, and then keep them. Are they domestic? And if so, and then they were released, and produced (with eachother, so still pure Columbia rock doves, but in the US) are they ferals, or wild pigeons? What about crows? I I were to keep American crows in my house, are they domestic? And if so, and I released them and they bred with eachother, are the young feral?
I really want to understand this, but feel that there is something not right with the terms... SO, here is the definition of feral.
fe·ral /ˈferəl,ˈfirəl/
adjective (especially of an animal) in a wild state, especially after escape from captivity or domestication.
Here's the definition of wild:
wild /wīld/ adjective 1. (of an animal or plant) living or growing in the natural environment; not domesticated or cultivated.
Okay, so, what about stocked fish? They once were in a hatchery and fed, but then stocked, and are living in the wild on their own with no help. Are they then ferals or wild?
Thank you for your help!
but there young can?
Well, some of the pigeons have the original rock dove blood in them, not just because they all came from them, but also since rock doves were brought to America, and some were released and escaped. So,yeah, they are kinda invasive.
