Pigeon Talk

[Serin]

Huh, I didn't know about the bars coming thru. do you mean dirty, like the dirty gene? Where it dulls its feet? Because I didn't know that affected the color of a bird. Here's one of my dirty birds....View attachment 1872652

No that's different... I think. I'm just going by blogs and posts on pigeon genetics, we'll see what if anything I really get. I read that ash red spread/lavender spread/mealy spread (all the same mutation apparently) is variable and affected by a lot of modifier genes. The clearest spreads come from checks or other patterns, while birds that have the genes for bars tend to show faint bars through the spread. That seems to be the case in the German Owl x Lucerne Gold Collar cross I posted. That cross also isn't pied, so if Rosie doesn't carry hidden pied factors I can surmise their chicks won't have much white.

I'd be happy if it turned out that they have lots of hidden genes and I'm wrong and their hypothetical chicks come out totally unique and surprising though.

 

[Qwerty3159]

I am not saying you are wrong good buddy. All I want to say when it comes to genetics be prepared for "SURPRISES".

Agreed, according to all the resources and genetics calculators I used the offspring of the pair on the left would look like either parent but so far they've produced the two on the right as well as two of the strange grizzles like the one second picture.

 

[backyard pigeons]

I had a close call... Was just loft flying when a coppers landed in the nearest tree. I screamed! It flew off, but so did the birds, but as a group. They then quickly all returned on my command. They got about an minute fly today... I will have to mix up the time now. Maybe start in the evening.

Last evening I flew the two older birds, they did good! Except they trapped in the wrong one... it was empty, no doors, but they went to their perches and waited for food. Their memory is unbelievable. Will I ever be able to settle them to the right coop?

 

[biophiliac]

Agreed, according to all the resources and genetics calculators I used the offspring of the pair on the left would look like either parent but so far they've produced the two on the right as well as two of the strange grizzles like the one second picture.

Very nice looking birds! I like grizzles.

I had a close call... Was just loft flying when a coppers landed in the nearest tree. I screamed! It flew off, but so did the birds, but as a group. They then quickly all returned on my command. They got about an minute fly today... I will have to mix up the time now. Maybe start in the evening.

Last evening I flew the two older birds, they did good! Except they trapped in the wrong one... it was empty, no doors, but they went to their perches and waited for food. Their memory is unbelievable. Will I ever be able to settle them to the right coop?

Your birds are better trained than mine! I'm lucky we have only red tails. I think your old birds will eventually move to the new loft.

 

[CCUK]

@CCUK when are you going to get your starling pigeons?

Starling pigeons! If you mean those beautiful, stunning fashionita pigeons hopefully in about a fortnight. The loft should be done by then! Maybe!

 

[backyard pigeons]

Very nice looking birds! I like grizzles.

Your birds are better trained than mine! I'm lucky we have only red tails. I think your old birds will eventually move to the new loft.

Qwerty does have nice birds!

I am not to worried about my birds once they are older, as they get hawk savy, but right now, their prime targets...

 

[backyard pigeons]

Starling pigeons! If you mean those beautiful, stunning fashionita pigeons hopefully in about a fortnight. The loft should be done by then! Maybe!

They are pretty, but just not for me...

 

[CCUK]

They are pretty, but just not for me...

Good job I'm not getting them for you then!

 

[CCUK]

Ash's squabs are a week old today and they are still tiny. They are being fed well enough but I still think they are still too small for bands. I'll try them on later.

 

[Qwerty3159]

I switched to evening loft flies which worked for a week or so and then the last two times Coopers' appeared but didn't make any kills. Last night a Coop chased one of my birds out of the yard and pursued it through the air until they were out of sight.
I feared the worst this morning when he still wasn't back but as of thirty minutes ago he's back. Only thing out of the ordinary is he came back absolutely soaked to the bone. When he landed in the yard he was so wet he was flying loudly and slowly and he ended up walking some of the way back. Any guesses as to what happened? I'm thinking a predator got him and dragged him into a pond/swimming pool and that he was somehow fortunate enough to escape. I have him separated in the sun so he can dry quicker.
The pictures don't do the condition he came back in any justice. I could see the skin on almost his entire body.