Pigeon Talk

[Serin]

Curious why you think Spread is a factor? What do you see to indicate this?

Is it bc Olive has no bars showing?

Olive is blue spread and spread is dominant to bar

 

[Hokum Coco]

I've researched all the visible genes involved with these two pigeons

I am not saying you are wrong good buddy. All I want to say when it comes to genetics be prepared for "SURPRISES".

 

[memphis]

Is Olive letting you pet her without biting since she layed her eggs? I'm loving the Olive x Mr. Rose saga.

 

[Old_Strain_Lover]

It was purely by chance they sold German owls - one of the breeds I was most interested in - though they called them "chico pigeons" (??) on the phone so I didn't know that until I got there and was considering getting a young white homer.

Chico is another term used by some fliers for a dropper. It's the birds that some people use during the races to help bring the birds down and trap fast during a race. Old German owls are a somewhat common breed used for this purpose as they don't fly much and are quite calm and easy to train.

 

[backyard pigeons]

I've researched all the visible genes involved with these two pigeons and come to the conclusion that their chicks would most likely be solid lavenders (ash red spread), with no crest but possibly small chest frills and larger eyes than homers, but shorter bills. Old German Owls seem to have as many as five pied factors involved in producing their pattern but I cannot verify if they are all recessive or if any of them will be expressed in crosses (assuming Rosie isn't recessive for any of them himself - he has no visible pied plumage.)

So this color...

(German Owl x Lucerne Gold Collar)

But this shape.

(Old Frill x Racing Homer)

Maybe with some white wingtips, tail feathers or spots on the head.

I think they would be pretty! I think the cross on the bottom between similarly different shaped parent breeds has a really elegant appearance. And they'd be pretty different visually from either Olive or Rosie.

If you get a true red ash spread, it will look like this:

it's a blurry picture, but as you can see, it has no bars... Either way, you will get some pretty birds!

I am not saying you are wrong good buddy. All I want to say when it comes to genetics be prepared for "SURPRISES".

that is the truth!

 

[backyard pigeons]

@CCUK when are you going to get your starling pigeons?

 

[Old_Strain_Lover]

If you get a true red ash spread, it will look like this: View attachment 1872506
it's a blurry picture, but as you can see, it has no bars... Either way, you will get some pretty birds!
that is the truth!

Yes, here is another example

 

[Serin]

If you get a true red ash spread, it will look like this: View attachment 1872506
it's a blurry picture, but as you can see, it has no bars... Either way, you will get some pretty birds!
that is the truth!

That's a clean ash spread. I posted an example of a dirty lavender spread, where some trace of the bar pattern comes in, which I read is common when crossing spread to red bar. Don't know if thats true.

 

[Serin]

Is Olive letting you pet her without biting since she layed her eggs? I'm loving the Olive x Mr. Rose saga.

Yes she is

 

[backyard pigeons]

That's a clean ash spread. I posted an example of a dirty lavender spread, where some trace of the bar pattern comes in, which I read is common when crossing spread to red bar. Don't know if thats true.

Huh, I didn't know about the bars coming thru. do you mean dirty, like the dirty gene? Where it dulls its feet? Because I didn't know that affected the color of a bird. Here's one of my dirty birds....