Pigeon Talk

[biophiliac]

https://sites.google.com/site/colourhomers/mutations/spread-factor
@backyard pigeons IDK if this helps you.
Have you checked Adam archer's channel on YT?

 

[backyard pigeons]

https://sites.google.com/site/colourhomers/mutations/spread-factor
@backyard pigeons IDK if this helps you.
Have you checked Adam archer's channel on YT?

Very good info, though I haven't quite figured out if my pairing will work... Thanks though!

 

[cavemanrich]

my red ash hen: sadly, it's a roller hen. The first bird I ever bought.

My view/opinion. Unless you want to only keep those ofsprings as visual pets, I would not mix rollers with homers.
Get another roller
If you mix, the resulting birds will not have rolling skills, or homing skills, or both..
Maybe that is what happened to a certain batch of white pigeons that I had in the past. They were mutts, but were pretty Mutts. Their homing skills STUNK

 

[backyard pigeons]

My view/opinion. Unless you want to only keep those ofsprings as visual pets, I would not mix rollers with homers.
Get another roller

Yes. I'm not crossing breeds. I Just used the pic for an example.

 

[Imammusa]

Just got my first ever pigeon baby
I’m so happy

 

[Northwest_Wannabe]

Alright. Do any of y'all know know how to breed red ash spread birds?

here's my thinking... Get a red ash hen (like the one I caught) and breed it to a black check make, as all black birds have the spread modifier. Would there be a chance in getting red ash spread birds from this? Because the red ash hen has the base color, and the male the spread factor to spread the red ash. Obviously not all the offspring will be red ash spreads. So is this the best way to get it?

my red ash hen: sadly, it's a roller hen. The first bird I ever bought. That's why I still have her. View attachment 2267269

Ash Red Hen x Black (blue spread) Cock would give you

-Ash Red Cocks carrying Blue
-Blue Hens
-50-100% Spread

So you should have at least a decent chance of breeding it with that pair : D


edit- brain fart, flipped them haha

 

[Northwest_Wannabe]

Okay. I remember the bird, but can't remember the breed. Is it a cross?

And just for your info, it was a red check. There is technically no such color as red bar, because red bar and silver are the same color, and silver is the dilute of blue. So a blue bar isn't talking about the bars, it is talking about a blue bird with bars (that are black). So, a silver bird is actually a dilute blue with bars, (the bars are red) but this doesn't make it a red bar. As when we see a blue bar, we don't say it's a black bar, even though it has black bars. I hope this helps! (This was you're science lesson for the day )

I was taught differently I think unless I'm reading this wrong, I was taught that Silver is just another name for an Ash Red Bar/Check commonly used in Homers? Cause I've got a friend who keeps and breeds Dilute Blue Bars (Silvers) and they're not red barred, they're a light grey bar : ) Sorry if I read this wrong!

 

[biophiliac]

Ash Red Hen x Black (blue spread) Cock would give you

-Ash Red Hens and Blue Cocks
-50-100% Spread

So you should have at least a decent chance of breeding it with that pair : D

When I cross an Ash red hen and a blue cockbirds I get blue hens and ash red cocks.

 

[biophiliac]

I was taught differently I think unless I'm reading this wrong, I was taught that Silver is just another name for an Ash Red Bar/Check commonly used in Homers? Cause I've got a friend who keeps and breeds Dilute Blue Bars (Silvers) and they're not red barred, they're a light grey bar : ) Sorry if I read this wrong!

I think I agree with you here but I'm no expert.

 

[Northwest_Wannabe]

When I cross an Ash red hen and a blue cockbirds I get blue hens and ash red cocks.

Ash Red is dominant and being a base colour it's also sex linked, so you should end up with the Ash Red mom giving her gene to the sons and her lack of gene to the daughters, meaning they'll get the blue gene from dad (and the ash red cock sons should carry blue) Are you sure your Ash Red hen is Ash Red and not Recessive Red or a type of Bronze or possibly Almond? : D I hope I explained that right, its hard when I can't draw it out haha

Ash Red cock to a Blue hen would also give you the results that you've gotten (Ash Red Cocks and Hens, as well as Blue Cocks and blue hens! Perfect pairing if you ask me! : D)