Please an explanation about virus spreading

Could it be unrecommandable to make born some pullets?
You can do that or at least try. 50% will be cockerels and not pullets. And you won't be leaving your place bird free to help eliminate any possibility of whatever virus you may be seeing right now.

But if your birds seem fine and you want to hatch it up, do it. :jumpy I just wouldn't bring in any new birds and I also wouldn't try sell or give any away without knowing for sure what the sneezing and wheezing was and if it's something that runs it course and becomes history or if it lays latent waiting to re-emerge.

I bred Silkies for a few years. Quite honestly they are excessively broody but NOT the the best broody's ever. My large fowl ladies brood circles around the Silkies, fend of predators better, raise more chicks, etc. Broody Silkies can be more effort than they are worth, and that's why I don't keep them anymore personally. One reason I like to use an incubator (aside from power outages) is because *most* broody's raise their chicks to avoid people so they are often less friendly. Broody's are cranky beehive's also. One plus of incubators, bought new they don't spread anything to your flock. But broody hens do have their pluses of course. Seeing a chick mum and family is quite lovely! :love

Your 6 year old chicken and other will eventually face their own mortality just like the rest of us. Genetics may help her live longer or not.

With birds that age, plus Silkies who will be broody, not laying, and raising chicks int he future... I would switch away from "layer" feed and use an unmedicated "starter" or a flock raiser type feed IF you have them available... with the added calcium source on the side for active layers. Those not in lay do not need the added calcium of layer and it could lead to kidney issues including one type of gout, possible failure, and even sudden death... though most often in those that are genetically predisposed somehow. In juveniles it can also inhibit growth and delay onset of production. "Layer" is too low in protein and amino acids for chicks aside from the calcium issue.

The sneezing would not line up with my following statement. But for what it's worth... many failing birds will have a hard time breathing as organs shut down everything becomes labored, even in chicks that have no disease exposure but are simply failing to thrive.

Don't forget that chickens are omnivores. They enjoy veggies, grass, and cereal grains (should be small amounts as they are often low protein and not diminishing the vitamins and minerals in the formulated ration is key). But they like bugs, and meat as well. :)
 
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I bred Silkies for a few years. Quite honestly they are excessively broody but NOT the the best broody's ever. My large fowl ladies brood circles around the Silkies, fend of predators better, raise more chicks, etc. Broody Silkies can be more effort than they are worth, and that's why I don't keep them anymore personally. One reason I like to use an incubator (aside from power outages) is because *most* broody's raise their chicks to avoid people so they are often less friendly. Broody's are cranky beehive's also. One plus of incubators, bought new they don't spread anything to your flock. But broody hens do have their pluses of course. Seeing a chick mum and family is quite lovely! :love

I know silkies aren't the best in broodying! i planned to buy another local italian breed, but at the hatchery they said " uhmmmm we haven't this breed but we have a silkie".....she was so cute so i kept her anyway :gig

With birds that age, plus Silkies who will be broody, not laying, and raising chicks int he future... I would switch away from "layer" feed and use an unmedicated "starter" or a flock raiser type feed IF you have them available... with the added calcium source on the side for active layers. Those not in lay do not need the added calcium of layer and it could lead to kidney issues including one type of gout, possible failure, and even sudden death... though most often in those that are genetically predisposed somehow. In juveniles it can also inhibit growth and delay onset of production. "Layer" is too low in protein and amino acids for chicks aside from the calcium issue.

SO useful advice!!!! i will look for another feeding! thanks!!!:wee

Don't forget that chickens are omnivores. They enjoy veggies, grass, and cereal grains (should be small amounts as they are often low protein and not diminishing the vitamins and minerals in the formulated ration is key). But they like bugs, and meat as well. :)

Yes! Right! i often let them stay out of the run and catch little animals! they're crazy for snails!

But if your birds seem fine and you want to hatch it up, do it. :jumpy I just wouldn't bring in any new birds and I also wouldn't try sell or give any away without knowing for sure what the sneezing and wheezing was and if it's something that runs it course and becomes history or if it lays latent waiting to re-emerge.

I'll never sell any of my birds :love
Yuhuuu really! i coooouuuuuld hatch! i was resigning myself! :p Yes i will definetly wait! At least to spring, maybe the next-next spring...
if my flock is immunized, they at most can trasmit virus at babies, but babies that -eventually- could catch it wouldn't be able to trasmit it another time to my hens...right?
 
I would read some about respiratory diseases, such as infectious bronchitis which causes sneezing and some congestion, and leaves chickens carriers for up to a year after symptom go away in about a month. Then there is mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG, CRD,) infectious croyza, , and ILT which leave them and the rest of the remaining flock carriers for life. This is the reason it is best to let the chickens in the flock die off, and once all are gone and none can infect a new chicken, get new healthy chicks. Testing a chicken or gettin a necropsy when losing one, with symptoms is the best way to diagnose which disease you are seeing. This article lists those respiratory diseases and give the symptoms for each:
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044
 
As for broody breeds, IMO bantam Cochins are nearly as reliable broody birds as silkies.
I know of a farm that rather than using incubators keeps an entire building of bantam Cochins to hatch all of their primary breed for their chick sales.

I imagine it is fairly cold, depending on what part of Italy you are in. Do you tend to close up the coop to protect from cold this time of year?
I'm a believer that respiratory diseases can be traced directly to diminished ventilation. Big fresh air, 24/7 is critical for health. As important as nutrition and clean water are, oxygen is even more important for these tiny respiratory systems.
 
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All chickens carry disease and many are infected with disease that should kill them but they are immune until stress brings out the disease. Chickens and all Chickens carry about 100 diseases.
It's a fact and having them is a constant concern about transfer when adding new birds.
Wild birds can carry disease over to your flock from miles away..
 
Ok, i'm me with my terrible flock, again :rolleyes:
I just would like to have an explanation/clarification.
Two weeks ago, one of my old hens passed for a respiratory virus.
I disinfected all with fire and i'm giving to my other flock apple vinegar and a nutritional supplement to avoid that others keep this. i don't know surely if they have already had this.
So, today, my roo went out of the coop (i didn't see him :barnie) and drank in a dirty waterer (dirty cause there were some old poops [i don't know who the poops are obviously]) that i didn't disinfect and that i putted out of the coop cause i didn't want they use it.
only one or two sips. then i ran, caught him and putted him in the coop.

so now i wonder. i read that respiratory viruses spread with inhalation of dusted poops.
Could my roo keep something (not unless he hadn't it before) again?! i'm terrified!
i was just counting 15 days from the disinfection to keep calm, and now this!
I'm feeling so so stupid cause i didn't throw away that stupid waterer!

Please tell me your opinion :fl
Did d you have testing done to know what virus or disease you are dealing with?

ACV will not cure nor prevent any respiratory disease or illness.
 
At least to spring, maybe the next-next spring...
if my flock is immunized, they at most can trasmit virus at babies, but babies that -eventually- could catch it wouldn't be able to trasmit it another time to my hens...right?
Right, it can be a never ending repeating cycle.. some things pass directly to the embryo and they already have it at hatch even.

Your flock may have built some immunity... meaning they are fighting it off better. But they will not actually be immune to it.

but at the hatchery they said " uhmmmm we haven't this breed but we have a silkie
So you got sneezing Silkies from a hatchery, and they are both female, how old? Is it a hatchery like with a business that sell to many other folks or just a person in their back yard. If someone is spreading disease... it needs to be reported to proper authorities and stopped. At the very least it is important to let them (the hatcher) know what you saw and are concerned about and hear their response. People cannot change what they don't know, and sometimes symptoms have not yet presented at the current location OR the keeper isn't as keen on noticing this stuff or understanding it or simply doesn't care. It doesn't have to be a confrontational thing and might go a long way to preventing others from facing the the loss of their flocks.

I do agree with eggcessive... and I am obsessive about disease control as well as time management and will cull in a heart beat any individual who poses a threat to the greater good of my flock, the instant I suspect something. I also cull hens showing any signs of things that are not contagious (Salpingitis, slow crop) but DO cause diminished/weakened immunity to all things stressful, viral, parasitic, bacterial, predatory, etc. It all builds and works together. especially if they are showing signs of discomfort like abnormal stance. Or anything that MIGHT repeat like a prolapsed vent. No suffering for those in my care if I can help it. That being said, I have been doing this a long time and it has been a huge growing and learning process. Many things quite frankly aren't recoverable... though EVERY case is assessed individually.. Some things require following the mind and not the heart regardless of how difficult it is. That depends on your goals and what you can take. Everyone has different resources, set ups, thoughts, and abilities. I never regret making the right choice even if that bird MIGHT have POSSIBLY lived a longer (still happy) life until the NEXT time. That's my hard core side. My soft side does help everyone by giving them all the same great care.. light stock density, waste management, safe ventilated weather proof shelter... with some added nutritional (poultry vitamin supplement) support beyond a formulated ration during times of obvious stress like molt. I use 20% protein flock raiser year round with oyster shell on the side for my mixed age and gender flock as feeding all a happy medium is easiest for me and has been working well for my flock for quite some time now.

Luckily California (US) is a huge state and I was away from the zones hit hard by virulent New Castle's disease (vND) earlier this year... back yard flock were first quarantined to their coop with no free ranging at all. And no movement of fowl into or out of the area. Soon followed mandatory euthanasia off ALL back yard flock in those zones! These type of things can threaten our national food supply chain as far as I can tell. Check the following links to see reports. :(

Federal
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/aphis/ou...ease-information/avian/virulent-newcastle/vnd

State
https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/ahfss/animal_health/newcastle_disease_info.html

This one is very useful, discusses depopulation and such... relevant to vND, not saying it's what you had but sharing as an example..
https://www.oie.int/en/animal-health-in-the-world/animal-diseases/Newcastle-disease/

Folks use raw ACV as an alleged probiotic... I prefer probiotics over antibiotics, but should only be used short term. No supplement should be given more than 10 days in a row.

Anyways, hope your getting lots of useful information without getting overwhelmed. :)
 
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I would read some about respiratory diseases, such as infectious bronchitis which causes sneezing and some congestion, and leaves chickens carriers for up to a year after symptom go away in about a month. Then there is mycoplasma gallisepticum (MG, CRD,) infectious croyza, , and ILT which leave them and the rest of the remaining flock carriers for life. This is the reason it is best to let the chickens in the flock die off, and once all are gone and none can infect a new chicken, get new healthy chicks. Testing a chicken or gettin a necropsy when losing one, with symptoms is the best way to diagnose which disease you are seeing. This article lists those respiratory diseases and give the symptoms for each:
https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/ps044

Thanks :) i read all the article and i didn't find that disease! No facial swelling, no mucus from the mouth, no swollen joints, no blood in poops....no extremely violet comb, only a bit.....i wasn't searching the exact symtomps...but i didn't find any plausible disease :(

I imagine it is fairly cold, depending on what part of Italy you are in. Do you tend to close up the coop to protect from cold this time of year?
I'm a believer that respiratory diseases can be traced directly to diminished ventilation. Big fresh air, 24/7 is critical for health. As important as nutrition and clean water are, oxygen is even more important for these tiny respiratory systems.

Interesting!
So, i'm in centre of italy, so it isn't so much cold. more rainy that cold.
I have a coop (open all day) and a canopy. thay just decide where to stay...
what fo you mean for sufficient ventilation? i'd like to know if my coop is the best under this point of view!

All chickens carry disease and many are infected with disease that should kill them but they are immune until stress brings out the disease. Chickens and all Chickens carry about 100 diseases.
It's a fact and having them is a constant concern about transfer when adding new birds.
Wild birds can carry disease over to your flock from miles away..

Yes...i knew....i wanted to bring home this last chicks to close my coop forever! :he:D

Did d you have testing done to know what virus or disease you are dealing with?

ACV will not cure nor prevent any respiratory disease or illness.

no....i'll do it if it will come out...

i'll answer again to all the others as soon as possible! sorry i have little little time in these days!
however thank you so much!!!!!!
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