PLEASE HELP! A couple of problems with my new girls!!

[dmacdo1]

Truth and really, if you can, please post some pictures. As for the Corid, stop all vitamins, medicated feed, any vitamin laced treats while using the Corid. It's counterproductive. The way Corid works is by blocking the absorbtion of thiamine from the chicken and the coccidia. Once you have finished the course of the Corid, if they are on their way to recovery, you can introduce the medicated feed and vitamins and a good probiotic.

I posted a bunch of pics of Candy here, from all angles. https://www.backyardchickens.com/g/a/6436722/candys-leg/
She's eating/drinking fine, but doesn't walk around much or scratch like the others. Please let me know what you think?
Thank you so very much for all your help!

 

[casportpony]

The other poop pictures look okay, but I wouldn't want to see too many that look like this:

 

[fogandcopper]

You might try purina chick starter. That's what we use. We one time lost a whole batch of 24 eggs, including the six that hatched to cocci.(turkins are super disease-prone)Except for one. The eggs were my little sisters. She had discovered turkins preious to this so we found a local person who gave us the eggs. 4 died before they were a week old, 1 died when she was about six months old, and the one that survived turned out to be a hermaphodite my sister named Lightning. The meanest thing ever. watched her beat up roosters bigger than her.(we use the female term due to my sister's insistence) Sorry for your loss. My sister has never gotten over that sad incident.

 

[fogandcopper]

Also, the one with the bad leg may have a dislocated hip, which there is no cure for. If you baby her, like I have done countless birds, she may survive it but even if it does she will always have trouble and it is liable to get worse with age. I recently had one die of a bad leg that I never found out what it was exactly that I had cared for and babied for 2 months. she was only about 6 months old. It would be best to keep her separate but still near the others. W put this most recent one in with my youngest sisters silkies and it was just the cutest thing to see them all huddled around her. Like a little fuzzy wall.

 

[dmacdo1]

The other poop pictures look okay, but I wouldn't want to see too many that look like this:

This was within a couple minutes of the first pic. Both from Candy. What does this mean??

 

[dmacdo1]

fogandcopper, how would that happen?
The other girls aren't being mean or anything & she's eating/drinking just fine. If she lays down, a lot of the time, the other girls go to her & cuddle right up with her. They've not excluded or picked at her. A couple of times, I've seen other chicks scratch & let her peck where they do. I do give her extra lovins though. Especially when I'm giving her the "chick PT". They all love when I sneak my hands around under the shavings! They all pile up on my hand, including Candy! A couple of them climb up my arm & roost! I love my girlies!!

 

[fogandcopper]

It isn't always from picking. Many things can cause it. Including if she got her foot caught or if someone crawled on her wrong.

 

[Haunted55]

https://sites.google.com/a/poultrypedia.com/poultrypedia/poultry-podiatry

Here's one of the many articles on chickens with leg and foot problems. Fogandcopper is correct in using a different feed as well. I won't use the Dumor feed any more, I had way too many problems with my chickens when I did. Including a turkey poult with slipped tendon. Foot and leg problems can come from injury, but usually are a result of poor vitamin quality or quantity in their feed.

Sorry...went back and reread the thread to make sure I didn't miss something.

http://chat.allotment.org/index.php?topic=17568.0

This link will show you what to watch out for with chicken poop and what is considered normal. I'm questioning about the cocci in your chick. As Casportpony said earlier in this thread, the others looked normal and you wouldn't want to see the yellow one very often. Rather than it being a problem though I am thinking it's a ceacal dropping, made to look worse because it's on a curved surface. If correct, entirely normal. If you have already started the Corid treatment, continue for the 5 days. It isn't going to hurt, then put them back onto a medicated feed, something besides the regular Dumor if you can. There is a new feed being put out by Dumor now that is for game and show birds. It has two medications in it, one is amprolium and the other is a bac....something or other. Lol, lots of help there right? Sorry, it's 5 am and I don't have the literature in front of me. It had a protien of 18% or right around there. I looked at it quickly but it didn't fit what I was looking for at the time. Purina, red bag, medicated chick starter is what I am using right now, just like Fogandcopper.

I am sorry about your other chick. It's never nice to lose them, no matter the age. Sometimes there's nothing that can be done, no matter how hard we try. It just isn't meant to be.

 

[Haunted55]

You know...I have a question about the cocci and if you don't mind I would like to raise that here as I think it may answer some of what you are seeing. If you dont care for this, please PM me and I will remove it.

I have a real problem with understanding how chicks in a brooder would even come in contact with the oocyst in the first place. I am assuming that the brooder you are using is clean or new, as you haven't had chickens in 15 years. Shouldn't be a problem. Dirt on hands or clothing? Maybe, but with your descriptions I get the sense you are very careful in the care of your babies. So for giggles, let's take that out of the equation. Chicks already infected? Better possibility, but again, how do they become infected from the incubator, shipping to you, without contact with the ground? The oocysts that cause coccidiosis live in the ground. Brooding them in a building that has other chickens? Sure but you're not doing that, so where did it come from? How do we say it's cocci if your chicks haven't touched ground? Maybe I'm suffering a huge brain cramp right now, been known to happen, lol, but I just don't get it.

If you had said you've been feeding them earthworms, let them run around outside everyday or even once...then yes, I would see it. So it comes back to "what am I missing here?". Telling you or anyone that it's probably coccidiosis is kind of a 'no harm no foul' situation as you were already giving them the medicated feed, but is it really cocci or are we giving info that is incorrect? I am so hoping that someone who is more versed in this can give an answer, because it just doesn't make much sense to me.

 

[dmacdo1]

You know...I have a question about the cocci and if you don't mind I would like to raise that here as I think it may answer some of what you are seeing. If you dont care for this, please PM me and I will remove it.

Not at all!! I am SO very grateful that you're so willing to help solve this!!
I keep a daily journal for the girls so I can remember everything for just this reason. If I ran into any issues, I can do a "play by play". Anything that I may see to be an issue, I'll write in red. As I said in an earlier post, the girls waterer is washed/freshened 3x's/day. Shavings changed ever other day. On the opposing days, I don vinyl gloves & pick out as much poop as I can. I even make sure if there's any poopy on the walls, to clean it off.

Tues. 4.16: The girls arrived! I had to run out quick to pick up my grandaughter. (gone a half hr) So I missed Vicky, our mail person.(who NEVER comes @ the same time everyday) I immediately checked the answering machine & sure enough. I drove (VERY FAST) 10 mins. to the PO to get them. They had only been there approx. 15 mins. One of the PO lady's, Lynn, said she had taken one out to hold. I know all our PO people, (small mountain town) so I didn't think this was an issue. I put them on the floor of my truck & blasted the heat, nearly suffocating myself & granddaughter on the way home.
The girls "brooder" (20" sq. cardboard box)had been prepared in the morning, contemplating their arrival, so it was already up to temp. Fresh water & feed as soon as I put them in. (Dumor non-medicated starter/grower crumble, again, suggested by woman at TS) Later that evening, I changed their waterer to a smaller, mason jar waterer that I had from my flock 15 yrs ago. The mason jar, itself, had been sterilized in the dishwasher. The bottom, I washed in warm, soapy water with a bit of bleach & made sure to rinse very well with HOT water & clean dishcloth. (Thinking back, I should have sterilized it! It was one of those "Oh I have a smaller waterer" moments)
Wed. 4.17: I noticed that 2 of the BO's had a bit of pasty but, so I washed their heiny's under warm water/washcloth & blew my breath onto them to dry, while holding them under the heat lamp. I did let my 8 yr. old granddaughter hold a few, as she had been dying to do, but I did make her wash her hands, because she had just gotten off the school bus. The rest of the day...uneventful.
Thurs 4.18: About mid morning, I gave the girls some crushed up Happy Hen mealworms & a sm amount of Manna Pro sm sized grit in a sterilized stainless steel bowl. Later in the day, I gave the girls a crumble/water mash, again, in a separate sterilized, stainless steel bowl. (Pretty much everything goes into the dishwasher, which has a sterilize setting, including the dog/rabbit bowls. I'm a freak like that about sterilization)
Fri. 4.19: First thing, I made them a new, double sized, cardboard brooder, with some shade access from the flaps. I did have to be gone the majority of the day, this day. I attended my grandson's school play & it was my oldest daughters birthday. So I was gone most of the day.
Sat. 4.20: Normal routine. Gave them another helping of the crumble/water mash.
Sun. 4.21: Mid afternoon is when I realized Princess Marshmallow was ill. I immediatly segregated her to a small box, inside the brooder.
The rest of the play by play can be found in my first post.
Since then, I started the CORID, changed to medicated feed for one day, (Mon.) Pulled the medicated feed (Blue Seal Home Fresh, medicated mash) & went back to the Dumor. (Tues.) I must add that when we raised chickens yrs ago, they always got Blue Seal feed.
SOO, I've not been giving them medicated feed from the get go. I used what the woman at TS suggested.
I have noticed this morning, that the other girls are getting bigger, but Candy doesn't seem to be.
I so don't want to lose her!!