Please help! Do I need to put coconut oil on pip?

[MGG]

I wonder if it would be enough with a heat plate as well. I was hoping to use both to make things warm enough for a brand new hatchers. Any thoughts? I am worried about using either of them alone, but together maybe? I certainly don't want to spend the money if it's not going to work. Thank you for mentioning that. It gives me hope that there something on the internet about using both. The lady that breeds the Seramas uses a heat plate and a heating pad that is made for dogs that she purchased off of Amazon. She didn't have the direct link so I am too worried about using just any of them without any feedback.

For the Serama definitely, and maybe in a day or so for the 2 CCLs and Spitz. On day 4 I would wean them off the lamp and onto the plate. What kind of plate is it?
My heating pad cost $26, and gets really nice and warm. Then the chicks can regulate their own temps. Just ben a piece of hardware cloth into a kind of slanted bridge (look at the first pic) shape, and make the back lower than the front. Then put the heating pad on top, and cover the top of the pad with an old towel. Then put it in, and shove the chicks under. You want the heat setting on high. It's a "no auto-shutoff pad. Here are my chickies under it. They get the concept very fast. You'll know they're ready to be off heat when they no longer go under it. They feather out so fast too.

 

[HeatherKellyB]

I have a few of these K&H heat plates. (I found a good deal on them brand new) They work really well from what I've noticed. I like to leave them lower in the back so it mimics a mama more.

 

[MGG]

I have a few of these K&H heat plates. (I found a good deal on them brand new) They work really well from what I've noticed. I like to leave them lower in the back so it mimics a mama more.
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Those look pretty good. Any idea what temp they get up to?

 

[HeatherKellyB]

I'm not sure but I should check it. That'd be great to know. I'll try to do that tomorrow. Thank you for mentioning it

 

[MGG]

I'm not sure but I should check it. That'd be great to know. I'll try to do that tomorrow. Thank you for mentioning it

I wonder if you could find it online. Its hard to get what the actual temp is, because the thermometer just measures the air temp. You sure can try though.

 

[HeatherKellyB]

@MGG I don't trust this machine anymore and never will again. I came in earlier this afternoon and noticed some loud peeping. Then I noticed the external pip, of course not in the air cell because I set them late in the day, 18 days ago. Also, notice the temp adjustment I had to make manually due to the temp spike. It's probably been spiking all along and I kept missing it. Day 18 - 1 hatched, 1 Externally pipped :-(

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Thankfully I noticed when I did as I immediately started desperately working on the humidity. I was trying everything I knew to try. I did make a teeny hole in the air cell to see where the chick was since it pipped out of the air cell. There was blood so I put some coconut oil on it and placed it back and went on with life. I can't believe it hatched completely unassisted! As it's been turning until today

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Super frustrated with this machine. Once I noticed the pip, I checked the temp with a thermometer that I knew was right and of course, the temp was spiking :-( I planned on putting them in the NR360 but I had Mally's last egg in there still (although I believe it's DIS) so I haven't sanitized it from the last hatches. I took Mally's egg out but then I needed to sanitize it and I planned to but I thought I had time. Life decided otherwise

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Should I check the other pipped one? Not sure if it just pipped hard or if it's a zip attempt. @MGG I'll get a picture of it

 

[HeatherKellyB]

Here's the externally pipped egg @MGG