Well, not really, but I'm at my wit's end with them, they're driving me nuts!!!! I have 6 kittens right now, and another one that will be growing up and following in their footsteps in another couple of weeks (she's 3 weeks old right now), and despite having pans down everywhere, these brats won't use them!!! 4 of the 9 week old kittens were born here in the house. The other 2 were found outside almost 2 weeks ago. Well, every other kitten we've ever had, whether it was born in the house or we found it outside, or it was given to us, they immediately potty trained with little to no problems, but these little brats, it's like their mission is to drive me nuts!!! We tried them with litter. They refused. We tried newspaper. They refused. So we tried pine shavings and we have one kitten that will use the pan. No, we're not planning to keep them all, but the ones we would like to keep, they still need to be trained! The last batch of kittens we rescued were stubborn, but I managed to get some of them to toilet train. If someone could give me some advice, something I haven't already tried (I did put their poop in the pan. Didn't work). The 2 we found, the little girl was near death, she had apparently not gotten much to eat before we found her (by means of mother's milk), and we suspect they had been dumped in our town before they were even fully weaned. The little girl is skin and bones, but my younger DD has been diligently working with her to put weight on her. The little boy was feral for all of about, oh, an hour before he decided he loved human contact. He's the only one making any effort to use the litter pan. I absolutely LOVE my little 3 week old (a surprise since we hadn't realized her mama had snuck out of the house. Mama was awaiting a new home where she was going to be spayed, and the new owners backed out at the last moment. Mama, her name is Moo Moo Kitty, will continue on to a new home as planned (she's not the most social cat, still somewhat feral since we rescued her), but her baby is staying. The baby was born a preemie, but is super smart and developing fast. Another couple weeks and she'll need to start litter training, and I refuse to let her copy after the older kittens. The kittens mainly targeted under my desk, along the wall, and we cleaned up the messes, but they keep going there. So we cleaned again and put the litter pans there. They now go everywhere in the living room EXCEPT the litter pans.
Is there another way to clean up where they've gone so they can't smell it? I'm using bleach, Lysol, and now vinegar. I want them to learn properly. Should I isolate them into a small room until they potty train? I'm at my wits end. If my mother wasn't an Aspie, I'd take them ALL to a shelter, but 3 out of the 4 of us are, and just taking the cats away will destroy my mom and my older DD, not to mention that my younger DD has worked so hard with her little Mollie Bear to get weight on her. Mollie has come to idolize my DD and depends on her for food, and, well, animals tend to not like my younger DD much, but little Mollie has fallen in love with her, and to take the cat away would devastate her. Whatever advice anyone can offer would be so appreciated. Thank you!!!
Mollie Bear, as my younger DD calls her:
Davey, one of the ones born here. He also has an orange tabby stripe brother, a calico sister, and a little white sister with brown tabby striped spots and markings:

Mollie Bear, as my younger DD calls her:

Davey, one of the ones born here. He also has an orange tabby stripe brother, a calico sister, and a little white sister with brown tabby striped spots and markings:
