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[Ascholten]

pasty butt is what, disahhrea essentially that got stuck on their feathers? WHAT makes the poop the consistancy to stick and clot to begin with .vs. normal poop, or just being in close quarters and not being able to walk away and forced to sit in it does that?

Aaron

 

[black_cat]

pasty butt is what, disahhrea essentially that got stuck on their feathers? WHAT makes the poop the consistancy to stick and clot to begin with .vs. normal poop, or just being in close quarters and not being able to walk away and forced to sit in it does that?

Aaron

Not entirely sure, but I think that if it's too hot or too cold it can cause an issue, and then also poor monitoring, because it builds up on itself, and the cramped quarters and inactivity probably also play a role.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

pasty butt is what, disahhrea essentially that got stuck on their feathers? WHAT makes the poop the consistancy to stick and clot to begin with .vs. normal poop, or just being in close quarters and not being able to walk away and forced to sit in it does that?

Aaron

Stress causes an imbalance in some of the chemicals that are in the poop. But yes, essentially it's soft poop that gets stuck. Shipped chicks are so stressed that you're almost always going to have someone with it. Sometimes it's chronic. I had several birds early this year that had it until they got real feathers in.

 

[Ascholten]

Yes, I see, I can imagine if they are forced to sit in poop for long times, it will harden on the feathers and accumulate. I am going to go back to the TSC by me and see if I can get them to let me hold a few and look at the chicks there just to get an idea on their health besides just eyeballing them from outside the fence. Im curious ow.

Aaron

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Yes, I see, I can imagine if they are forced to sit in poop for long times, it will harden on the feathers and accumulate. I am going to go back to the TSC by me and see if I can get them to let me hold a few and look at the chicks there just to get an idea on their health besides just eyeballing them from outside the fence. Im curious ow.

Aaron

It doesn't only happen when they're forced to sit in poop. Many, if not most of us on here have very clean brooders and very healthy birds and they still can get it

 

[Ascholten]

So it's the peanut butter poop, gotya. maybe put them with the ducks once a day for a swim to swim the poop away hehe. KIDDING....

Aaron

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Diet, too - something that's often in flux during and just after the stress of shipping then being crammed together in tanks under a heat lamp, etc.

Its why the frequent recommend is just water (or vitamin enhanced water) for a period of time - up to a day (8 hours is the recommend I see most frequently), before introducing food. Taking up a bunch of dry, powdery starches during a time when many chicks are already stressed and dehydrated is basically a recipe for pasty butt - its just one more stress on their just hatched bodies.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Diet, too - something that's often in flux during and just after the stress of shipping then being crammed together in tanks under a heat lamp, etc.

Its why the frequent recommend is just water (or vitamin enhanced water) for a period of time - up to a day (8 hours is the recommend I see most frequently), before introducing food. Taking up a bunch of dry, powdery starches during a time when many chicks are already stressed and dehydrated is basically a recipe for pasty butt - its just one more stress on their just hatched bodies.

Oh! I had never heard of recommending water only for a few hours. I've always been told to provide food and water immediately

 

[U_Stormcrow]

Oh! I had never heard of recommending water only for a few hours. I've always been told to provide food and water immediately

Give it a try, I think you will be pleased with the results.

Anecdotally, I've had no issues with pasty butt since last spring/summer (though I start them with a loose oatmeal-like mash rather than straight water, then food) and my last batch of store-bought birds (1 of 6). Of course, I now hatch my own, so they never experience the shipping stress. Both changes occurred the same time, so which is the primary factor, or if they work in conjunction, or if one doesn't matter at all - I can't say with confidence.

 

[JacinLarkwell]

Give it a try, I think you will be pleased with the results.

Anecdotally, I've had no issues with pasty butt since last spring/summer (though I start them with a loose oatmeal-like mash rather than straight water, then food) and my last batch of store-bought birds (1 of 6). Of course, I also hatch my own, so they never experience that shipping stress. Both changes occurred the same time, so which is the primary factor, or if they work in conjunction, or if one doesn't matter at all - I can't say with confidence.

I will, thanks