Stan, mine sure took their sweet time. The males don't even fill out all the way until they are close to a year old. Dru, the sister to Kathy's pair she posted, started laying just two weeks ago at 27 weeks, but she seems to still have weight to gain to grow into her frame. Her mother and aunts didn't lay as early as she has.A good lookin' pair Kathy. Do they mature faster than the Good Shepherd birds?? Seems like mine weren't that well feathered at 8 months. ..........stan