Police Seize Chicks Without A Warrant! ****PHOTOS ADDED****

[Danceswithchicks]

Did they actually slauther them? If so, I would hire a team of lawers if I were her!

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

No, the judge ordered them returned, and they were. I was concerned that that might have happened, but fortunately they weren't THAT dumb.

 

[littlegorb]

guns are loud. how about if they come take them away?
AMMENDMENT 2! also the fact that we stole this land in the first place. and to be squabbling about ordinances. i just want to live and let live. i have my chickens, got arrested for them, served 2 days in jail for them. i will serve more if need be. i drive 18 miles one way to care for them now, when they should be right here in my backyard. even with a doctor's note, they still fight me. my chickens make me happy. i love their eggs. i have no rooster to piss off the neighbors, (unlike them who have dogs that bark their asses off). it's human nature to prey on those who they think are weak. i can be an asset to my community, but i have been singled out and picked on. my tiny little lot yielded over a ton of food. most of it i gave away this year. who cares?

 

[McCord6]

I gotta say she is some "CHICKEN EXPERT"
She got ALL but 1 chicken WRONG. All the chickens that the "chicken expert" has picked out were pullets except one. Im sorry but HOW STUPID IS THAT?! Plus the article said that NONE of the chickens that were taken were even or EVER capable of crowing. That is more of a "CHICKEN IDIOT"

Maybe sound like a broken record but...
Roosters are loud, So are dogs...Why are dogs allowed but roosters not in some areas?

 

[wombat]

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We have a consitutional right to keep and bear arms. Roosters aren't in there, at least not yet. It's all in the details.

 

[WalkingWolf]

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We have a consitutional right to keep and bear arms. Roosters aren't in there, at least not yet. It's all in the details.

Don't roosters have freedom of speech...

 

[Sonoran Silkies]

This may not be the best thread for this comment, but since the issue has already been raised...

There is a reason for zoning ordinances, just as there are reasons for most laws, both criminal and civil. At what point does one's choice infringe upon another's?

I do have an issue with people breaking ordinances because the ordinance does not fit their wants. I do not have an issue with pursuing a change to an ordinance to achieve their wants, however, as it allows (or is supposed to) an equal and fair procedure for all interested parties to express and lobby for their opinions.

I like roosters, and their noise does not bother me. But, they are allowed where I am zoned, and my lot is large enough that they are relatively far from most neighbor's houses, although I expect that many can still hear them. Roosters DO crow during the night--mine usually start about 3am, although it is occasionally earlier. If my lot were small and neighbor's were very close, I can see them being concerned and upset about noise.

I have said here and other places many times, the source of the noise should not be the issue, but rather the volume, frequency (time, not wavelength) and duration, regardless of the source. Oh and also time-of-day.

There is a great deal that can be done to soundproof a coop. Likewise, other nuisances should be based upon the nuisance, not its source.

In this thread, as I understand it, the chickens are allowed under a state right to farm law, and possibly the lack of a town ordinance forbidding them, or that is in conflict with state law. The city council/selectmen are trying to do various end run-arounds to change the rules after-the-fact, which is constitutionally illegal.

 

[Over Easy in Adna]

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Incorrect. Seizure requires a warrant or writ issued by a judge. This is a 4th Amendment Constitutional Right.

Seizure does not require a warrant. I have seized all sorts of evidence to be used in a court proceeding without any judges involved.

 

[WalkingWolf]

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Incorrect. Seizure requires a warrant or writ issued by a judge. This is a 4th Amendment Constitutional Right.

Seizure does not require a warrant. I have seized all sorts of evidence to be used in a court proceeding without any judges involved.

In this case a court order or writ was required as it was on personal property that the police had no right, obligation, or responsibility to breech unless there is an open crime, or evidence of crime. As the chickens were already being adjudicated in a approaching hearing the chickens where off limits. And what is worse the police KNEW this, they clearly violated a court proceeding and really deserve to be jailed. This is the very thing we need to guard against in this country.

 

[ruth]

I'm glad she got her chickens back, and with all the publicity, I have a feeling she will be able to keep them.......BUT......

Am I the only one who can't stop giggling over the mental image of the "Chicken Expert" picking each one up and looking at its vent to tell the roosters from the hens? I swear it gets funnier with each passing hour - I read this this morning.

What was she looking for? His little thing-a-ma-bob hanging out the vent?

If she's a Chicken Expert, I must be an Einstein because I can tell my Welsummer roos from the hens from across the field.

I have 300 birds, every breed, all freeranging and I can point out the roosters from the hens and I've never had to pick one up and look at its vent.

Sorry...a little off thread topic but still can't stop chuckling.