Political Ramblings

[kstaven]

Yes the people that say a few families want to control all the money are loony

Have you ever been on ether side of a promissory note ?

Yes I have. Both good and bad experiences there.

 

[kstaven]

And I get accused of trolling when I question and just try to get an answer. LOL

I'll clue you in on that one from a moderator perspective. Many don't want to answer because it takes them outside their comfort zone or they don't have an answer. People who want to get an answer get frustrated because they don't get an answer, or one they want to hear, or just get double talk back which frustrates them. From there the frustration builds and the continued push for an "answer" does turn into what is in effect trolling. Either that or the gloves come off and peoples frustrations showing turns into insults.

The second thing that is common is that people figure they can argue a person into their camp and things turn south.

Been doing this for years and 99% of the time you can see it coming long before it happens. These are the major reasons for the limitation of political discussion.

Trying not to get baited into a heated argument can be a real challenge for all of us also.

 

[hemet dennis]

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I would ask the wizards when has that ever happened in our history. It never has happened in this country.

Like I said you take away currency ( profit ) you take away innovation and development.

 

[hemet dennis]

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I should have also added unsecured loans to the promissory notes. But why do people pay the notes or loans back ? Because if they don't they wont get another loan. Same thing with money, it's a promissory note. All you have is the faith in a person or Government to back there promise. But there are some people and Governments that have a better likelihood to back there promise.

 

[hemet dennis]

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Well I think you have a more gloom a doom belief then I do. But are you or I wrong ? Only time will tell.

One person earlier said that Bank of America loaned money to China with Tarp money. But the truth is that BoA bought a bank in China. And everyone cried over TARP but it turned out that the Government ( the taxpayers ) made money on the bank bailouts.

Most of the time I don't try to get someone to switch from one side to the other. But I like to get the facts to the person that's just reading because they don't know or are on the fence about something.

 

[kstaven]

You do take innovation away when you remove gain. But people need to come to terms with the fact that money is an artificial construct and continuing to try to maintain the status quo on how we handle it, view it and what we base it on needs to evolve as much as our society has evolved. To continue down our economic current path, and the way we work the monetary system through interest and profit will lead us to ruin. You can't have perpetual growth or long term stability based on a construct that uses finite resources as its base. Something needs to change drastically.

As to the wizards out there: They are grasping for dear life to an illusion of their own making and trying to prevent a system change that needs to happen, which means they have to change their way of thinking or potentially make them dinosaurs. This is well outside their comfort zone and I believe you are well aware of what happens when the know-it-alls get pushed into that realm. They try to baffle us with bs and hide behind political double talk hoping to keep us from discovering they really don't know or don't want to see things change because they are threatened by both. They might lose their perceived authority and power.

 

[kstaven]

Well I think you have a more gloom a doom belief then I do. But are you or I wrong ? Only time will tell.

One person earlier said that Bank of America loaned money to China with Tarp money. But the truth is that BoA bought a bank in China. And everyone cried over TARP but it turned out that the Government ( the taxpayers ) made money on the bank bailouts.

Most of the time I don't try to get someone to switch from one side to the other. But I like to get the facts to the person that's just reading because they don't know or are on the fence about something.

I do have more of a doom and gloom view these days because I don't see the will out there to change a system that has to evolve and in the end will force its way into that evolution despite the best efforts of those who would not want to see it change. This I see as a very rough ride.

 

[kstaven]

And with that I will say good night. Have to get at least a couple hours sleep.

 

[hemet dennis]

You do take innovation away when you remove gain. But people need to come to terms with the fact that money is an artificial construct and continuing to try to maintain the status quo on how we handle it, view it and what we base it on needs to evolve as much as our society has evolved. To continue down our economic current path, and the way we work the monetary system through interest and profit will lead us to ruin. You can't have perpetual growth or long term stability based on a construct that uses finite resources as its base. Something needs to change drastically.

As to the wizards out there: They are grasping for dear life to an illusion of their own making and trying to prevent a system change that needs to happen, which means they have to change their way of thinking or potentially make them dinosaurs. This is well outside their comfort zone and I believe you are well aware of what happens when the know-it-alls get pushed into that realm. They try to baffle us with bs and hide behind political double talk hoping to keep us from discovering they really don't know or don't want to see things change because they are threatened by both. They might lose their perceived authority and power.

Well I will never say the system we have is perfect and one reason is it's implemented by people. But I've never heard of one that's better and workable then what we have now.

On a better note did you hear that the Hockey strike maybe over ? And my Kings are still the champs.

 

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