*POLL* Should a strain of chickens carry the breeder's name?

[HaikuHeritageFarm]

Once that strain leaves the breeder's yard, the name is meaningless.

I hear a lot of the good gamefowl breeders laughing at the silliness of people throwing around those old names like they mean something when the birds aren't even recognizable as the original strain Hatch or Kelso or Lacey developed. It's just stupid vanity name dropping.

 

[787junglist]

Well here's the thing... if you have only one breeder that has put in thr work to develop a strain of say,Blue Leghorns, here in the United States... I think it's fair and just to name the strain after that breeder that has worked their ass off in feed,time,elbow grease,money,and bringing their idea to fruition.

I know...and I stated I had no beef on mentioning you when talking about my stock...but I'm familiar to gamedogs too...what if I wanted to make an outcross with some mayday blood for example...is the offspring named after your line? If I already had the same blood coming from another dog? Is the offspring still your line? And I get it sir...me...in my world I always give credit to whoever deserves it without it looking as if I'm trying to lick in the eyes or so...I'm sure I would always mention where my stock comes from...but when it touched my hands it's another business

 

[787junglist]

Once that strain leaves the breeder's yard, the name is meaningless.

I hear a lot of the good gamefowl breeders laughing at the silliness of people throwing around those old names like they mean something when the birds aren't even recognizable as the original strain Hatch or Kelso or Lacey developed. It's just stupid vanity name dropping.

Totally agree .

 

[787junglist]

Once that strain leaves the breeder's yard, the name is meaningless.

I hear a lot of the good gamefowl breeders laughing at the silliness of people throwing around those old names like they mean something when the birds aren't even recognizable as the original strain Hatch or Kelso or Lacey developed. It's just stupid vanity name dropping.

I'm from Puerto Rico...in here we still test our stock daily even with the ban from Congress. And the name dropping is pure sillyness when you talk to old people. You see it in their faces. When they talk about where their stock came from you can really tell by their face it was soooooooo long ago it really doesn't even matter.

 

[Miami Leghorn]

Once that strain leaves the breeder's yard, the name is meaningless.

I hear a lot of the good gamefowl breeders laughing at the silliness of people throwing around those old names like they mean something when the birds aren't even recognizable as the original strain Hatch or Kelso or Lacey developed. It's just stupid vanity name dropping.

Actually no.
It is not meaningless.Because if it not were for the foundation stock the line wouldn't be where it would be at that particular place in time.
Names are important to help track where this animal comes from and what the breeder is working with.
Otherwise Solis,Man-O-War,Seatle Slew would just be names that get lost in the trash heap of history.

In the aspect of color patterns in my opinion created by anyone who has taken the time to develop and maintain a Strain deserves credit.

In game fowl, I challenge the fact that a breeder will introduce scatter bred fowl into their program in place of known bloodlines where they can expect better results.
Any breeder worth his or her salt will start with good known stock whether has a name or not has an origin and that origin should be identified & accredited.

 

[Miami Leghorn]

.I'm sure I would always mention where my stock comes from...but when it touched my hands it's another business

Yes true.
But you are working on keeping traits within your line and those traits are brought in by known bloodlines.Is only yours by ownership not Origin. Genetically speaking.

 

[YardMoa]

If someone managed properly marked, true breeding, mille fleur Cochin Bantams, I'd say they've earned the right to stamp their name all over them

 

[Miami Leghorn]

I'm from Puerto Rico...in here we still test our stock daily even with the ban from Congress. And the name dropping is pure sillyness when you talk to old people. You see it in their faces. When they talk about where their stock came from you can really tell by their face it was soooooooo long ago it really doesn't even matter.

Dude please.
Paaahleeeese.
Bloodlines have names for a reason. Some are better known depending on the region and prevailing trends.
The bloodlines of today owe it to the bloodlines of yesterday.
If the names that were known "soooooooo long ago" have descendants and if those breeders were focused and prudent in their breeding to retain the desired traits why would'nt they matter?

 

[Miami Leghorn]

@HaikuHeritageFarm

I recall not too long ago you dropped some names as well...


You said "Once the bird leaves a yard the name is meaningless"
And yet:

About me: I am new to standardbred Leghorns, about a year into them and making my first matings now. I have large fowl single comb Light Browns and a single Dark Brown cock from Bud Blankenship.

, but he's proven to be quite a stunner and is probably my favorite leghorn male, though he is a bit "orangey" according to Bud

I'm trying to get a dark brown female from Bud.

I'm just saying.

 

[Miami Leghorn]

I would to hate for Mr. Blankenship to learn that his hard work and diligence was considered "meaningless".