Poop Management in Urban Yard

Discussion in 'Managing Your Flock' started by tracykennedy, Aug 14, 2016.

  1. tracykennedy

    tracykennedy Out Of The Brooder

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    We live in the city and have a small flock of three hens that free range in our backyard. This is our first time with chickens and they are currently about 5 months old and just started laying. We love having them, but would love some help brainstorming solutions to poop management/space management.

    If you let you chickens range in your entire yard, how do you manage poop? We thought that we would fence off a small portion of the yard just for the chickens, but a three-foot fence does nothing to keep them contained. We clipped wings and they laughed at us, as I found them on the back porch after going out to run errands yesterday. I am starting to think that if we want part of our yard to be poop-free, we will need to enclose them in a run.
     
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  2. Mrs. K

    Mrs. K Overrun With Chickens

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    You do need to enclose the run. If you make it tall enough to walk in, you can actually give them considerable more space, by adding some roosts, a platform that birds can get under and on top of which will let them use more of the 3-D space of width, length and height. Then put a deep bedding in the run. Which will give them something to dig in, and absorb the poo, keeping them cleaner.

    Mrs K
     
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  3. tracykennedy

    tracykennedy Out Of The Brooder

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    Thanks. If we wanted to keep them free ranging in part of the yard, how high of a fence would we need?
     
  4. EggSighted4Life

    EggSighted4Life Overrun With Chickens

    Hi, welcome to BYC! [​IMG]

    I used to live in the city where my hens free ranged and pood on everything. Hated having it around the pool. And they wanted to be close to wherever I was. Ended up enclosing the patio with lattice plus a top and bottom rail. The barred rock couldn't make it over OR never figured out how. But when I was on the patio they would be posted up directly on the other side of the lattice. So your breed might make the difference. All of my birds laugh at 3 foot fencing except the very young chicks. I actually picked up the majority of the drooping on a regular basis.

    I like the deep litter suggestion, if it will work for you in San Jose. I lived there during high school. Add your compost to that litter area. I am not 100% sure, but I was told no bananas or onions as they alter the flavor of the eggs.

    Good luck!
     
  5. EggSighted4Life

    EggSighted4Life Overrun With Chickens

    Depends on breed, which do you have? Some can easily make it over 6 feet, some can't make it over 4. Some don't care to even try! So probably depends on the individual as well.
     
  6. EggSighted4Life

    EggSighted4Life Overrun With Chickens

    Also, did you clip only one wing?
     
  7. tracykennedy

    tracykennedy Out Of The Brooder

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    We clipped both wings. We have two black Australorps and one Golden-laced Wyandotte.
     
  8. waddles99

    waddles99 Chillin' With My Peeps

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    Honestly, I have seen chickens fly 6' in the air. The only real way to keep them in is an enclosed run. Sorry. I have my chickens in a run with a fenced in area outside they can go in under supervision. The fence is 4' and if they fly over I can just put them back. They rarely fly over though. But if something scares them, or they see something they want, they can and will fly over. What I recommend for the run is a cement slab. Cover it with lime and then hay. Every week, take a flat shovel and scrape it up. Easy.
     
  9. lazy gardener

    lazy gardener True BYC Addict

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    As far as clipping wings go, clipping one wing is recommended as that unbalances them so that they are not as tempted to try to fly the fence. I suggest that you build your fence 6' tall so that you can walk into it if needed. If you put bird netting over the top, that will protect them from aerial predators. Make it as big as you can allow. Even if you allow free range every day, a run is essential IMO for several reasons: There will be occasions when a predator will find your flock. A secure run will keep them safe. When they start laying, a run will enable you to train your birds to the nest so you don't have them laying eggs all over the yard. Deep litter in the run is definitely the way to go. If you put a nice deep border around the base (6" minimum) that will help to hold it in. You can dispose of all of the coop litter, garden debris, weeds, kitchen waste, basically, any compostable materials can go in here. Your run will be a healthy place where the chickens will spend hours happily creating composte for you. They will reap huge benefit: healthy bacteria and fungi for their guts and for your soil. Beneficial insects and worms for the chickens. (your feed bill will go down while your chickens become more healthy and much less prone to attack by parasites (both internal and external). Your run will never stink. And once it gets going, you can regularly remove buckets or wheel barrows of healthy compost from it for your gardens/lawn.

    As far as free ranging in your yard: Poop happens. I consider it to be little fertilizer packets. My dog considers them to be snacks. If you need to do a quick yard clean up, a hose does a good job dispersing those bombs into the soil. Your birds have their own ideas regarding the perfectly landscaped yard: They will put the stinkiest and foulest of their poops on your deck, patio, and front steps. They will dig dust baths in the middle of your lawn, most likely where you are most apt to walk, so that... if you are not paying attention, you will fall into their craters. They will disperse any mulch into the grass. They will eat all of your favorite vegetation. Any vegetation they don't eat, they will shred. Any vegetation they don't shred, they will dig holes into the root systems so they can wallow and dust bathe under that particular plant until it's dead. Deer netting is great for protecting specific areas from their attention. You can cut a 7'W roll in half with scissors to yield 3.5' rolls. It's practically invisible and easy to put up with thin fiberglass fence posts. The chickens will bounce off it, they will run circles around it, but because it's so transparent, they don't think to try to fly over it. I wouldn't use this for a run, but it works great to fence them OUT! Leave the garage door open, or any door for that matter? They will organize a self guided tour. The tour leader will lead them through, as they discuss and inspect each new item they find. they will spend hours inspecting the contents of your garage, checking out all horizontal surfaces for perching comfort, as well as decorating all of those surfaces with poop.

    An other good reason to have a secure run: you can let them out for short periods of yard landscaping and destruction, and put them back in when they've done enough damage for one day.

    Chickens spend a lot of time on their roost at night laughing at the infinite amusement you provide as you scurry around the yard cleaning up after them.
     
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  10. EggSighted4Life

    EggSighted4Life Overrun With Chickens

    Then you defeated the purpose of clipping wings. You are supposed to clip only 1 so the bird will be off balance when it tries to fly.
     

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